ending reaction ...The Last of Us Part II [ FINALE + DISCUSSION ]

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I just personally don't love it when it's so obvious/transparent what the creator is trying to force/try to do. Some points I'd add though. You could argue that it was wrong for her to want revenge in the first place, just like it was wrong for Joel to kill her dad; however, Abby's dad was going to take Ellie's life without her consent. Yes, it was for a vaccine, (we're not entirely sure if it would have worked but we can assume it would), but Ellie didn't even have the chance to think about it, she wasn't even consulted about whether or not she consented to having her life be sacrificed. They could have even just asked her, and if she was willing, (which btw I think a lot of people would agree that Ellie might have actualy been completely willing to sacrifice herself for the vaccine, maybe even as a tribute to Riley, which makes all of this very interesting) great, she consented, Joel doesn't get a say because it's her life, and everyone gets a vaccine. But they didn't. So I wouldn't say that Abby's dad was completely innocent either. It would've even been better if let's say that Ellie said no, that they just knocked her out and killed her to get the vaccine anyway; at least they asked. So I think Abby torturing (Joel didn't tortue Abby's dad) Joel slowly, and then killing to seek revenge, which doesn't help anyone, isn't the same and possibly even worse than Joel killing Abby's dad when Abby was going to use Ellie's life without her consent, killing her. Joel * could * have just knocked Abby's dad out, and the other two surgeons (that's optional for the player so we can ignore that), and just taken Ellie out. Also, Ellie was right there, * begging * Abby not to kill Joel, * everyone * could see how much agony Ellie was in, and she did it anyway. I think we could all agree that if Abby was right there begging Joel not to kill her dad, Joel might've gotten a flashback of the soldier killing Joel's daughter Sarah, even though Joel begged, "Please....." I think Joel would have just knocked the doctor out. Abby didn't. She saw Ellie in agony and struck Joel's head with a golf club. Abby also said, "you don't get to rush this", torturing Joel to death for her * own * catharsis, whereas Joel just killed Abby's dead immediately in order to get Ellie out. Also, Joel also saved Abby's life. Abby would have been dead or turned into an infected were it not for Joel. That has to count for something. They could have made some sort of deal that would have actually helped people instead of just revenge for personal selfish catharsis. Like, tying Joel and Tommy up, and demanding a huge amount of resources from Tommy's dam/settlement for Abby's settlement (I forgot what their civilization was called, ex fireflies?) Joel having saved Abby's life, she could have said, "You killed my father. I demand serious and sufficient compensation that will satisfy me. What will it be?" It could've been anything that could have helped Abby's civilization instead of selfish catharsis, and a lot of her own friends would've lived. Yeah, Ellie was wrong to have slipped so far, and to gone so far, but it's because of Abby. So personally I don't see it as black and white as Abby just being the good guy in all of this. I love Laura Bailey too! And it was wrong that she received hate and death threats, and even more wrong that her child received them too. I'm a very casual gamer, I actually don't game much at all, almost all of my gaming is what you see on my account here, but from what I have played, Naughty Dog has and likely will always be my favourite game developer/company. I made some further comments in the 2nd most recent livestream I did, but it's a bit hard to hear.

I know this is a late response but yes, I think that was Naughty Dog's trick was to have empathy for your enemies, see both sides of the story. That's why I hate to see people grumble when they have to finish Abby's story because you have to see both sides to get the full picture. Abby is, in my opinion, the "good guy" in this whole story because she only wanted to avenge her dad. I'd want to kill the guy who killed my dad and doomed humanity too! She let Tommy and Ellie live, she could've killed them too and showed mercy to Dina (thanks to Lev but still...) Abby, overall, is my favorite character in the whole game, love Laura Bailey alot lol. Ellie I think ended up being my least favorite unfortunately, I don't like the choices she made throughout, especially leaving Dina to face Abby again. Although, Tommy did pressure her...