Why You Shouldn't Watch Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir

I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, for a show about an aspiring FASHION DESIGNER, AN ACTUAL FASHION DESIGNER and a MODEL we get the blandest ugliest designs.

Adrien: professionally trained swordfighter with stick weapon Also Adrien: Oh no, i lost my 192749372728382192737382738 fight, after being left to fvcking die again. Help me Ladybuuuuug.

a show like sofia the first aimed at PRE SCHOOLERS has better writing, consistency, character arcs and lore than this show

I found Adrian's side of the story way more interesting than Marinette's. Hers got boring. I wish they would completely re-do the entire show because that would be so awesome. Obviously not with the same director.

One point I’ve never heard anyone mention. In the origins episode, cat noir was the one shining. He was a natural. Sure he took more risks, but that’s part of the job. Meanwhile ladybug was stumbling, running from the job. Only in the end did she get around to it and pulled the finishing plan. Yet all the credit just clings to her, despite the fact she was barely seen in action and the one who was fighting the monster all along was standing right there. Remember this is the first time anyone has seen them, they don’t have an already built bias towards the girlboss of the duo.

As someone diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety, I hate how Marinette's trauma is portrayed. It doesn't make sense, it's never been suggested before and she shows no signs of trauma. But worst of all, her trauma is used as an excuse. Trauma is not an excuse. This gives me more of a headache than it should, but how I hate it.

Another minor, but irritating plot hole/retcon caused by Derision: Early in the series Kim is established to be terrified of spiders. So whY THE HELL WOULD HE PRANK MARINETTE WITH A BOX FULL OF SPIDERS

If you want to see Marinette and Adrien done right. Watch Kim Possible, Kim and Ron are treated like true partners one can't really succeed without the other. There was even a movie special that focused on that and that's how the villians managed to beat them. Kim isn't flawless despite being called the girl who can do anything and Ron actually gets a lot of focus he has own villians and even supporting cast when the story revolves around him. Even though he's the "Sidekick". Adrien and Marinette are a joke in comparison.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if the only way you can make the girl the lead in a boy-and-girl team is to butcher the boy, deny him equal chance, and remove him from crucial moments, you're not writing a feminist story with a woman in the lead - you're implying that the only reason she's in the lead is because the guy's never given a chance

Astruc ditching Chloe's redemption arc is the textbook definition of character assassination. I'll never forgive him for squandering such potential.

The “trauma” they gave marinette annoys me a lot, how on earth does that one incident cause you to stalk a boy? She never got any consequences for it, her friends even helped her on her crazy bs.

Funny thing is: Sailor Moon was actually written like fanfic too. The author said that while coming up with the characters, she basically wanted to create an imaginary group of friends for herself. The difference to ladybleb is, that Naoko Takeuchi loved the entire main cast and and wanted to be friends with ALL OF THEM, wich is why the entire group gets some fucking development. Writing a show as basically wish fulfillment for yourself isn't bad, as long as you're a competent writer.

Adrien, the most neglected fictional man I've ever seen. He had a lot of potential too. :/

The funniest thing about this show is that Thomas Astruc on Twitter said that CANONICALLY Jesus Christ held the ladybug miraculous right after being mad that religion was being shoved in his face…?

Thomas Astruc is a huge narcissist who treats Marinette like she's his own daughter, which is highly disturbing. He treats Marinette like the golden child, while everyone else is left in the dust. He also doesn't care about the people who work on his show as seen in "Animaestro" and the points discussed in the video in regards to that episode in particular. He is an incompetent writer, and an even worse person in real life because his favorite pastime is bullying people who don't see things his way. He is a cyberbully who will go out of his way to make others miserable because they don't share the same delusions he has about animation. The continuity is disregarded in favor of shipping and character assassination, not to mention his deranged and psychotic views on child abuse and trauma. It leads me to believe he may have narcissistic personality disorder along with a combination of other mental illnesses, and he needs to be institutionalized. He's just sick in the head.

Whenever I see people talk about Chloe and her botched redemption arc, there's almost always someone who'll point out that not every character can be redeemed. Which, is true. A character, and a person, has to recognize they're a bad person before they can start to become better, they must put in the effort to change and hopefully earn the forgiveness from those they're hurt. And while I get where these people are coming from, I also have to point out that Gabriel was right there. They could've paralleled each other as their arcs went on. Chloe recognizes her shitty behaviour, perhaps through realizing how she's mimicking her mother who treats her like garbage, and so tries to change. Because she doesn't want to be like her mother, she wants to be better. Someone who people care about, like her hero Ladybug. And so she has to dismantel her whole persona, build it from the ground up into something she can be proud of. Fight tooth and nail to prove to herself and everyone around her that she is a good person, she can be better. And then you'll have Gabriel. Who's cold and cruel to his own son and so blindsided by his own goal that he doesn't care who he'll end up hurting. Perhaps Natalie will stay by his side, and try over and over to snap him back to reality. Give him countless opportunities to be and do better. But Gabriel never takes them, because he doesn't see any problems with how he is. He has no reason to change. Miraculous Ladybug has had so many opportunities to make a great story, but time and time again they fail. I'm so glad I dipped when I did.

Coming from a former fan, if you want to experience Miraculous that badly, just watch the Netflix movie and don’t think about the show. It’s not perfect, but it does the characters far more justice in just over an hour than the show could ever hope to do in six seasons.

Honestly, if a fandom can make a thousand more compelling stories than the writers, there is something wrong here. Miraculous is good at giving ideas. Most of the concepts and lore they put forward is interesting, but they fail massively in execution. But then the fandom takes these concepts and makes them into something better, which is probably why a part of the fandom stuck around. I live for some of the fanstuff they make and like making up my own lore. The show practically begs you to re-write/re-imagine stuff.

It’s genuinely fascinating how almost every problem with the show can be traced back to the first season. Sure, the first season of every show can be rough around the edges Yet somehow miraculous seemingly or purposely ignored these problems and pushed along with the faulty foundation It’s truly baffling and somewhat impressive to watch the spectacle of a crumbling building

marinette trauma will always bug me because if it's trauma THE SHOW SHOULD TREAT IT AS SUCH!?!? not only that they should introduce it early in the show?! LIKE HELLO!!?