Christians Don't Know This Jesus

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Christians Don't Know This Jesus | Bart D. Ehrman PhD

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All Comments (21)
  • If a writer copies another work and embellishes on a story about someone heโ€™s never met, donโ€™t we call it โ€œfan fictionโ€ these days?
  • @urmasalas
    My wife just said you don't understand women's behavior. The women are frightened and run away without saying anything to anyone. But they still tell their best friend. Who only tells her best friend. Who only tells her best friend and the next day, everyone in the market knows it.๐Ÿ˜„
  • Not a Christian, but always enjoy learning about different Cultures which includes religion, to Me!!!
  • @cruzefrank
    This is perfect! A double dose of Mark from Dr. Tabor and now Bart Ehrman
  • @jesreyes1472
    Don't commit murder. Don't commit adultery. Don't bear false witness. Don't defraud. I love that because those are the commandments that the money hungry usually breaks the most.
  • @andrelegeant88
    I just have to note that Mark is likely missing its ending. 16:8 in my mind cannot be the ending of the text because the final word is "gar." This is incredibly rare. Mark is not a strong writer of Greek, and is not using a strange form to replicate an original language in Greek. As such, I cannot imagine that he would employ an unusual form for effect. The use of "efobounto gar" requires an object explaining that which is feared. Cf. Mark 11:18. If Mark had intended to convey something like, "They said nothing because they were afraid," he'd have more likely used a participle structure translating to, "and being afraid, they said nothing." Mark 16:9 also cannot be the original ending because it does not complete the sentence.
  • @mgreene011
    I thought that I saw demons when I was in my early twenties and didn't tell anyone for more than a year. Looking back, I was probably unwittingly going through the DTs.
  • @a.t.6322
    Iโ€™ve always found it comical that the other gospel writers felt the need to change Markโ€™s ending. Clearly, when Mark ends it with โ€œThe women were terrified and told no oneโ€ he is using irony because obviously they mustโ€™ve told someone for the disciples to know and later preach the resurrection. You can almost see โ€œMarkโ€ winking at the reader because Jesus was constantly telling everyone not to say some thing about him and they almost always turn around and do it anyway.
  • @isaaclosh8082
    Love how the scholarship is progressing in New Testament studies. MythVision is providing great exposure to scholarship that would not be available or accessible otherwise
  • @gwenmeier1852
    Have enjoyed learning from Bart through The Great Courses and will encourage anyone to follow his thought process.
  • @redwatch.
    The world is a much better place for Dr. Ehrman's cool rationality and clear explanations.
  • Bartโ€™s laugh is so entertaining. It goes 0-100 and then 100-0 so quickly lol
  • Love the channel and the outstanding legitimacy of it. Also, got a huge chuckle to learn that you are an expatriated, Fayettecong!! i was at bragg in '65 with the 82nd for several months before heading out for the Nam. i was a mindless 17 year old then. After all of that military misery was past, i easily fell into butt.......another "cult," and did a 30 year "tour" as a fundi in the church (oy vavoy!!). Presently, i yam an Ehrman-style, "christian atheist," delivered from any cultist thinking, whatsoever. i do have an abiding respect for the historical Jesus, butt.......without subscribing to any supernatural, religious nonsense about him. i am ever so thankful for that liberation. So, keep on keepin' on with disseminating rational thinking. "IF" we manage to survive our own selves, it will be due to our having clawed our way out of our present, Neanderthal mode of superstitious thinking. Getting rational is the only way that we'll ever do that. The "ministry" of debunking such irrational thought as that which defines religion, appears to be your present calling. You're good at it. Never give it up. Never go back to being mind controlled by cultists, no matter what it costs you. Take it from a former mind slave. Ha! A Fayettecong! Who would have guessed it!!! -๐Ÿด
  • @waderogers
    The fact that Mark ends with the empty tomb is Mark's way of saying, as others said of Roman deities, that Jesus was also a god, since his body was missing. Just as Asclepius went missing and the bodies of other Greco-Roman figures went missing, he ended his story abruptly with the 'young man' telling the women 'he is risen. He is not here'. 'Risen' as in he rose upwards into the sky and that's why 'He is not here'. I think what we have in the gospel stories about the death and resurrection of Jesus is an amalgamation of historical stories and mythic themes. The historical part would be that this wannabe Messiah did manage to historically get himself crucified. The mythic theme is that he was deified when he resurrected and ascended on high just like Romulus and others. So they took the story of some guy who had a following, spoke in parables (easy to do really), probably performed magic tricks that looked like miracles, caused a stir in Jerusalem which put him on the Roman radar, and got himself crucified (probably had Messianic tendencies). So, they attached the story of a resurrection and ascension to prove that he really was a god (or the Messiah) because you just...couldn't...kill him! The gospels are historical docu-dramas. A mix of fact and fiction.
  • @thescoobymike
    You already know this but your channel just keeps getting better man! Production value as well as scholarly value is something to be cherished
  • @tw9472
    I am wondering if the concept of resurrection does not originate in the previous myths as a attribute of divine being, We have it often, one god or deity killing the other, dying in battle or being swallowed by a fish, but at the end NO, victory, the deity somehow survives the death, is back to life again and acts. This is something people were buying, they were used to the fact that deity somehow can not be permanently killed because killing means can not act anymore. The resurrection was needed to add to Christ the importance and makes his teaching immortal, gives immortality and power to his messages. The resurrection itself had to happen in a cave, he had to wrapped, there had be someone witnesses to make it real and believable