Unless One Is Born of Water and the Spirit
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Published 2023-02-27
Reference: • The Bronze Serpent and Jesus
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For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. Habakkuk 2:14
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In the Jewish context, being born of water is equivalent to the crossing of the Red Sea (baptism), and born of Spirit is equivalent to the encounter at Mount Sinai, which occurred on Shavuot, the day of Pentecost. Jesus is telling everyone that it’s not enough to rely on the experiences of one’s ancestors. Everyone needs to experience salvation and renewal of the covenant themselves.
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Greatly appreciated your linkage with the Spirit of God hovering over the waters in creation of life. One could also include Luke "the Holy Spirit will come upon you" in reference to the birth of Jesus. I think Jesus is also establishing his authority by taking Nicodemus literally when he says, "a teacher come from God". If Jesus is come from God, He must also have seen the "kingdom of God" like Moses. With reference to water in "water and the Spirit", our natural birth is "in water". We even speak of a mother's water breaking. And yes, it also refers to baptism since we are "born again" in baptism by water and the Spirit. As Jesus points out, we may barely understand "born of water" but no one can capture "the wind/Spirit" - it is beyond our human comprehension - it must be "from above". Again, your insights are wonderful - thank you.
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Here from Tiktok, thank you sir❤️❤️
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Thank you again, brother Chad. Another excellent revelation of the thoughts and the intents of God's heart and meaning in scripture. "Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." - Mat 16:17 NKJV I believe that pursuing the scriptures with our carnal minds, with logic and proper hermaneutics is always, if not fruitless, at least incomplete. But since all scripture is θεόπνευστος, that is God breathed and Jesus said His words are "spirit and truth" they are indiscernable to logical, indiscernable to our carnal brains, and only discernable and perceivable through the enlightenment that the Holy Spirit alone can provide. It is impossible to view a holograph in natural light. A holograph can only be observed when illuminated by the exact frequency of light that created it. So it is with God's Spirit-Words. They can only be seen by the agency of the light (Holy Spirit) that created them. Human intellect is entirely excluded.
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Ezekiel 36:25-28 Ezekiel 36:25-28 Then I will sprinkle pure water on you and make you pure. I will wash away all your filth, the filth from those nasty idols, and I will make you pure. I will also put a new spirit in you to change your way of thinking. I will take out the heart of stone from your body and give you a tender, human heart. I will put my Spirit inside you and change you so that you will obey my laws. You will carefully obey my commands. Then you will live in the land that I gave to your ancestors. You will be my people, and I will be your God. Baptism is required to enter into the kingdom.of heaven. Elijah in 1 kings and Elisha in 2 kings.. as well as leviticus and numbers and many of the Psalms mention it. Then every single book of the new testament after Christ said it in John 3:5 Many more examples if you need. Baptism is not just a public display of anything. Nor is it primarily only to be done in public. This is a stumbling block for many many many people. Baptism is a requirement to even see the kingdom. It is not specific to any one doctrine. It is a requirement from our lord amd savior. Rejected by thise who assume an appearance of godliness amd choose to follow Denominations instead of the word. We were not called to follow denominations but rather the word. The word is clear amd god breathed. Rejecting any of it is to reject christ
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I so enjoy your teaching. ❤
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Look up the Greek word Kai which is a conjunction. So the translation could read as “water which is the Holy Spirit”
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I have heard very good studies on this topic. All of the word parsing was interesting. I do not, however, agree with the conclusion. How do we explain the gentile Cornelius receiving the Holy Spirit (Salvation ) in speaking in tongues, which was a manifestation of the spirit, proving that he had been born again before he was ever baptized in water or Apostle Paul saying “Christ did not send me to “Baptize “ but to preach the Gospel. In Following the flow of conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus one could say Jesus is directly answering the question that was posed in verse 4 By showing contrast 2 separate things “born of the water “ , “born of the Spirit “ he is not using the water as a prerequisite, but rather taking Nicodemus’ quandary and guiding him through it.
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Born of Water and the Spirit is to mean the Spirit comes on us like a rain. He is poured out onto us from Heaven. No water immersion. John baptized with water for repentance. Jesus baptized with the rain of the Spirit through believing in his works for our righteousness. This is our Salvation!! Jesus did it all. The Holy Spirit is our baptism because he is the river of living water that flows in every believer. On us. In us. Through us. Out of us. Praise Jesus!! All glory to our Father!!
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I always understood the water as a woman's water breaking. Contrasting that you must be born of the flesh (water) then the spirit (salvation)
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Awesome! Thank you sir. I’m surprised you didn’t touch on, Jesus using plural when saying, “you didn’t believe our testimony.” Jesus didn’t say HIS testimony, but OUR referring to what was written about him prior to Him coming to earth; but also would like to suggest the OUR testimony speaking as a triune God right in front of old good nick. Good stuff! Thank you again sir
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Blessings all, may we all feel His peace. It has been brought to mind to encourage all to ask Father, in Jesus's name for His living water. When we receive this it is a powerful supernatural experience that actually feels like two mighty rivers of waters gushing into our bellies. With this water comes the spirit of the Lion of Judah and we become known to Jesus as He watches through our eyes and hears through our ears. His spirit comes within us, separate from us and is awesomely powerful. He is also there in a heartbeat should we need Him. Please please ask Him as it's real. Hallelujah! This is what it is to be born of water. To be born of spirit involves receiving a heart of flesh and name from God. It too is a powerful physical and spiritual experience. Hallelujah! Ask in His name and receive. Hallelujah!
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Chad I want to be born from above. How to know that I have God spirit living in me? I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and I’m legally clean through His shed blood. But I’m not so confident about it. Is it my lack of trust or low self esteem?
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God said it. Some have told me they don't have to be baptized. I had to say God said you must be baptized. They don't have faith in what he says.
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To be born of the Spirit and water means to be born of the Holy Spirit and to be baptized. The Bible (St Mark 16 : 16) says he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. These days people are trying to exclude water baptism from salvation. But baptism is very much a part if salvation.
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The ex hudatos of Jn.3:5 (coming up out of the water) is the same with the baptism of Jesus, mk.1:10). It is also the same ex hudatos with the baptism of the eunuch (Acts 8:39.
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Great study !
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When Nicodimus came to see Jesus, he didn’t raise any questions. What makes Jesus raise such a born again question to Nicodimus ? Thx for your reply
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Thank you very much Chad for the beautiful explanation 🙏🙏🙏