Is Destiny PvP Finally Worth Playing Again?

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If pvp is the forgotten step child then gambit is drake estranged long lost daughter waiting for daddy to come home

The Team shotting meta we've had for a few years makes 6v6 a frustrating experience, because you're basically softlocked unless you stay in a 5-6 man group.

Seeing those destiny 1 sniping clips is crazy, snipers are so brutally nerfed at this point they're basically only for top players to use

-Special ammo economy 📉 -Ability Spam 📈

I just want a Halo mode. Hardware is nice but I think it would be fun to have a fixed PVP game mode every once and while where weapon and armor perks are deactivated and stats are fixed for both armor and weapons. New players can jump in with blue weapons and armor and compete with veteran players without having to farm red borders and high stat gear. With how sweaty PVP players in D2 like to be, it’s weird that little to none of em want to try out a fixed mode that could be viable for esports without ruining the rest of the PVP space magic that they already enjoy. Seems like a better alternative to me than having needed PVE nerfs negatively impact PVP and vice versa.

Bungie, bring back the sunsetted PVP maps ...a lot of veteran players miss many of them and new players have had no chance to experience them! Caveat..I know that will never hapoen but one can dream.🙏😎

For me PvP is just too sweaty and everyone tries SO hard even in QP I just don’t bother anymore once I’m done sweating my ass off in master/GM content I just wanna play something less taxing to enjoy. Although I do enjoy the LTM (rotators)

I quit destiny a while after beyond light after playing for around 3 years.. it wasn’t easy to give up the amazing gunplay as you described it, but I am largely a pvp enjoyer and the state of the crucible was just so rough at the time I quit, if you weren’t using the meta hand cannon archetypes or the best ar you were getting destroyed… I have since switched to apex and have noticed the biggest difference for me that I love about apex is that every weapon in the game, no matter how niche can be good in the hands of someone that knows how to use it.. and I think is so cool, there’s 100% still meta weapons, but to not be glued to those few guns that are viable was such a refreshing change… thank you for the informative video tho.. it has certainly kindled the fire to return to destiny… maybe soon….

Honestly you and Shadow helped me out with all your PvP tips and info videos you guys have done over the years (even if some of them were out-dated by the time I got to them) when I came back in Season of the Lost. I went from a ~0.5 to a 1.3 on my lifetime with about a little over a dozen We Rans but over the past year I feel like I’ve stagnated greatly (my kd hasn’t gone up or down; granted that might be in-part due to sbmm but still). Still, thank you both.

Thank dude for the awesome content

hardware has been fun especially as someone coming back after a break. Nice vid!

Without an abundance of special ammo in 6s to punish these absurdly lenient abilities where they've sprinkled DR and overshields everywhere, it's just not as fun. Having the ammo to snipe with some recklessness also just is fun. Strangling special ammo made D1 pvp nosedive, and years ago when they started hitting scavenger mods they started down the very same path in d2, and it was clear they weren't walking the same road I was from that point on. Either abilities need a full overhaul to be supplemental to gunplay like grapple and such, instead of direct impact, or they just need to give me NLB or a truckload of special ammo again.

I love pvp in Destiny 2. The gameplay is so fun and it’s the main reason I want to get new gear from PVE

The special ammo nerf was truly the "pièce de résistance" in ruining sniping. I endured every sniper nerf with saint-like patience, but being reduced to one pathetic ammo, when we previously basked in the luxury of two, was a masterstroke. Sniping is now as enjoyable as a root canal. Bungo should have been made them the exception in this special ammo apocalypse.

Jesus, I'm not playing anymore but it's heartwarming to see they finally put on a PvP mode without damn supers

I am brand new to PvP in D2, I started trying out PvP a few days ago. If it were not for hardware mode, I’d quit PvP. The learning curve is very high and the community is incredibly toxic if you’re the weak link. And if you don’t know anyone to play with going at it solo just makes it much more difficult. Hardware solves so many issues for new players. You can focus on just learning how guns work and the maps.

If they make that no ability game mode I will be back for sure. Ever since the ice subclass I have been done.

So hows the experience for someone like me who wants to do nothing more than just pvp? Do I need to occasionally do pve specific things for power or to gain new weapons? What do the expansions provide for pvp only players. Are the queues good?

literally every time i start doing anything is when it starts going downhill. guess i just have to stick to it long enough for it to go back up again