Avatar 2 - The Best And Worst Of James Cameron

James Cameron really knows how to make a sinking ship scene dramatic.

I never thought James Cameron could make a movie even more blue than the first, but here we are.

I'm a bit surprised by how little I see people talk about Kiri's epilepsy/connection with the Great Mother that feels like total loose end, or at least underdeveloped. I thought that in 3 hours I could see this story get really well rounded out.

If nothing else, you gotta give it credit for not trying to "subvert expectations" or "deconstruct the genre" or be spiteful to its target audience or anything like that. In fact, just the fact that it went for a simple, if dated, kind of moral and was made with some passion was pretty refreshing.

I will never understand how they can spend MILLIONS on special effects but only offer pocket change on writing the script???

Jake Sully: "Didn't you die to Neytiri's arrows?" Colonel Quaritch: "Sadly yes... BUT I LIVED!"

I went to the theater without expecting much in the way of storytelling and enjoyed it. Some scenes surprisingly succeeded in delivering some emotional points too, on occasion. The visuals blow any CGI from this year out of the water when it comes to realism and believability, and the artistic direction is more clear-cut and coherent than the first movie. I suspect it would kinda fall apart upon a rewatch, especially outside of the theater, but I didn't feel the long runtime and I didn't feel like I wasted money.

The ‘new character turns out to be the secret child of the previous villain’ is such a cliche element and it’s always followed by said character sitting alone depressed before being joined by someone who was previously hurt by that villain and the kid saying “am I like them?” And the other person smiling and saying “you’ve got a good heart, you’re nothing like them” 🙄

I still struggle to understand how humanity in the Avatar universe has the ability to bioengineer lifeforms, and make them genetically compatible with the base species, yet making an Earth lifeform capable of cleaning up/eating pollution or just modifying humans to be more tolerant to the new conditions is apparently impossible.

"Na'vi are constantly portrayed as perfect" Actually I was happy to see Na'vi jerks in this one. The water tribe chief's wife and kids outright call Jake's family halfbreeds with demon blood, and said kids lead Jake's son out into the deep ocean, apparently to be lost at sea. Meanwhile the Chief's wife gets called to treat Jake's daughter and seeing humans trying to tend to her immediately tries to use it as an excuse to leave.

I think he tried to make the bad guy more believable, instead of the evil bad guy. He tamed the flying thing like Jake. He cared for spider, so he stopped the torture and he let the kid go because he didn't want Spider to get killed.

I couldn't get over the fact that 4 of the 6 soldier avatars were killed in the beginning (one was literally shot in the face) when Jake was rescuing his kids but in the next few scenes they're scene leaving the area perfectly fine

When I heard Jake Sully say "A father's job is to protect his family" I knew it was gonna be at least better than the marvel shitfests.

My issue with the 3rd act is it felt like they kept leaving the ship, and getting back on, then leaving the ship, then getting back on...

The craziest part of Avatar 2 for me was how much it felt like it was all set up for something that didn't come. Spider's relationship with his dad, the hostage scene, the stroke, humanity trying to colonize. Everything seemed like it was setting up for much more than what the end of the movie gave that it feels like it was either meant to be longer or to be the first in a long series like Starwars, but at the same time the painted simplicity of humans bad gives the feeling that any sequel wouldn't be much fleshed out. All in all, I think we'll all find out in Avatar 3: The fall of Earth

4:27 - man, you aren't kidding! During that interminable chunk of the movie, someone says, "The Way of Water has no end." And I literally thought to myself, "It sure f*cking seems so!"

One of the better tactics for these films is just to enjoy the visuals and let the plot just act as a background detail.

We live in a world where the reviews are more anticipated than the movies. Let that sink in. EDITED TO ADD: "Letting other people think for you." Yet here you are. Also, some people have wasted so much money on absolute shite that they are a little jaded, that's all. If none of that applies to to you, coo. No need to troll.

Cameron is a helluva pioneer in cinematic technology... but for the love of God, he paints his scripts with an extension roller. Heavy-handed, cliché, preachy, without an ounce of subtlety or cleverness. He's a sharp director, but a completely blunt and dulled out writer. It's almost hard to believe he wrote The Terminator, Aliens, and The Abyss. True Lies had different writers, and T2 showed signs of his bad habits. Titanic is where his flaws really showed through. Derivative love story that takes up most of the more fascinating historical aspects of the famed travesty.

I liked the film but I 100% agree about Spider. The actor was bad and the character had just appeared out of nowhere for the sake of it and had little impact on the story. The things he did do, like save Quaritch's life, could have easily been changed and done a different way without Spiders involvement