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Jaime is the textbook definition of treat someone like a villain long enough and they become a villian

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." In this case, it's a ranch.

The issue with Jamie being the enemy is that Beth and John made him the enemy. Years of using him and abusing him has led to this point.

I like how the writing of this show tried so hard to paint Jamie as the villain, but did exactly the opposite. Told the audience something and showed them something completely different

John and Beth are the reason Jamie is the way he is. It always bothered me how people make Jamie out to be the bad guy without looking at the context. He's no angel, but compared to the rest of the family, he's a saint. He isn't at all selfish, hence him saying he doesn't want the ranch for himself. Rather, for his nephew and son. It all starts when he was 17. Back then, John asks Jamie what he wants to be when he grows up. Jamie said with a big smile on his face, "You, Dad. I wanna be just like you and do your job." But then, John said "Well, son, I want you to go to school to be a lawyer." Jamie's smile immediately disappeared and he was clearly shocked and disappointed (even asking some questions on the why). He was shocked because he knows John hates lawyers, but John's only response was "Be one I like." Because Jamie was so loyal, he did what he was told. As far as the Beth abortion issue, that scene clearly took place not long after his above-mentioned Lawyer thing with John, hence Jamie saying it was his last day on the ranch. Jamie, again, was only 17. Barely older than Beth. She wasn't asking him for lunch money or handling a bully. She asked him to help her gut a baby in secret. A teenaged girl has no business asking her teenaged brother to handle an adult-level situation like that. And secrecy is basically impossible when your family is ranching royalty. And if people paid attention to Jamie's facial expressions and body language, they would realize he was hesitant to have her go through with the procedure that would render her barren. But in his teenaged brain, combined with seeing how scared and desperate she was, this was the only way. He didn't do it out of spite. He did it out of love. 20 years later, Jamie has faithfully served John and the ranch and yet you can see in the first episode, before Beth even came home, that John seemed to treat him indifferently and refused to listen to his sound advice. Jamie told his Dad that the ranch needed money and that his old -school wild west approach to protecting cattle and preserving the land was a bad idea, but he didn't listen because of his stubbornness and recklessness. And because he didn't listen to him, the mission went sideways and Lee was killed. Jamie also warned John about Beth, how she would end up tearing the family apart and that the longer she stayed on the ranch, the worse she'll be. We see he was right about that too. Since then, John has yelled at, cursed at, threatened, disrupted, and even hit Jamie despite his years of loyalty and service. To think, all Jamie wanted was to be a cowboy and rancher like his Dad. He never wanted to or asked to be a lawyer or politician. His Dad looks down on him for being the very thing he forced him to be, when he didn't even want to be the thing in the first place. Jamie was always the most loyal of the four Dutton kids in the sense of being what his Dad told him to be and do. Lee didn't want to mingle with people to build relations with the ranch, Beth moved to SLC to be a financier (and has made it clear on many occasions that she doesn't care about the ranch), and Kayce relocated to the reservation with his wife and son to train horses. Jamie, however, sacrificed his dreams to be a good son and all he got in return was contempt, mistreatment, and belittlement. I, for one, am glad he has turned on his toxic family and really hopes he brings them down, especially Beth. That triumphant tirade against her when she broke into his house was just the tip of the iceberg I suspect...

The man has been trying to make logical decisions for this family which isn't even his, yet he is made a villain by John and Beth. I am glad he is fighting back after years of emotional, psychological and physical abuse he had to endure.

Beth's anger at Jamie over the abortion should be directed at John. At a young age, Beth tried to get an abortion because she was afraid of what her tyrannical father would do to rip, and Jamie agreed to the clinic's insane methods out of fear of John too. Had he known, he would have killed Jamie. In any case, only Jaime would have been punished by John, and Beth seemed to know but didn't care that fact... that's the saddest.

I still don't understand how Jamie is the bad guy? That family has degraded him for just trying to do whatever they wanted.

They can’t just take Jamie to the train station, he’s the Attorney General of the State of Montana. If he goes missing, an investigation will be launched. And if Kayce finds out, he’ll disown his family and never speak to them again. It’s not like he’s trying to steal the land away from them, he just has a different method of saving it. John and Beth repeatedly abuse him and they’re surprised every time he betrays them. Yes, he’s weak, cowardly, and has extreme self-esteem issues, but he’s not as evil as Beth makes him out to be.

Jaimie is the hero of the show. Everyone else is evil and selfish to the core

It seems like Sheridan has been trying to make him into the villain but for me he is the most sympathic of the Dutton's. It would be nice to see him get some happiness before the show ends but I don't think that's the way the story will go. Real shame, was hoping to see him get a comeback.

So Kayce is the only Dutton that Jamie was never at odds with? Wonder what kind of relationship Jamie had with Lee

Where exactly does this grudge against Jamie come from? He is an obvious underdog in the family, he is being constantly emotionally abused, gaslighted, and totally unloved by B and J ... Hell, if I had a family like that I would have turned on them long time ago, but he still tries to please them over and over again.

It’s not Jamie versus the Duttons, it’s that Jamie is scapegoated by the Dutton family. They deflect blame on him for all their problems and blame him for everything that goes wrong. It will come back to haunt theme.

When we hear Jamie and Kacey interact it seems nothing but respect and love, with everyone else, other then the bunk house crew its nothing but respect.

Here is my educated guess with how the second half of season 5 will go: John will tell Beth that they cannot have Jamie killed. Not just because he was raised as a Dutton, but perhaps some sort of hidden plot twist that involves Evelyn. Maybe Phyllis was a childhood friend of Evelyn's... or maybe even Evelyn's biological sister. That would explain why they were so quick to adopt an infant Jamie after Phyllis was murdered by Garrett. Meanwhile, Jamie will go through with having a "hit" put out on Beth within the first couple episodes back from the break. At some point towards the end of the season, a hit man will arrive at either the Dutton Ranch or some other place of significance to carry out the hit. But instead of Beth being murdered, the hit man either intentionally or accidentally murders Summer. With Summer's death and possibly a wounded Beth, John succumbs to a fit of rage that results in one of three possible outcomes (which would pave the way for Kevin Costner's departure of the show): he gets killed in a shootout as part of an instant retaliation to this hit; he doesn't get injured at all, but somehow this incident blows the dam open to expose all of his nefarious, illegal deeds that leads to his removal from the Governor's office and possible federal prosecution; or he is mortally injured to where he is on life support for the next 1-2 episodes, but before his passing launches one last Hail Mary that either sees him possibly reconciling with Jamie in an attempt to preserve his family once he is gone, or throws some sort of legal blockade in Jamie's direction that will either get him removed from the AG office and/or remove his legal stake in the Dutton Ranch. There are so many possible roads the storyline of this show can. In the beginning of the series I will admit that Jamie Dutton was one of my favorite characters. And while I believe he may act like a coward at times and be one of the dumbest Harvard graduates in terms of "street smarts," I do not believe he has deserved the amount of animosity and vitriol he has received from both John and Beth prior to him declaring public warfare on John as governor. Jamie has slowly evolved into a figurative monster that was created by both John and Beth over the years. John intentionally used Jamie's urgency for his approval to make him the instrument he wanted to help him fight the legal battles, all the while sharing little to no compassion for him. And even though Beth has the right to feel angry about Jamie not being forthcoming about the sterilization, her need to degrade and humiliate Jamie at every opportunity for nearly the past 20 years has transitioned from pettiness to cruelty. I'm not rooting for Jamie to succeed with taking over the Governor's office and possibly killing members of the Dutton family. But I am hoping that he seeks some sort of retribution from the hell John & Beth have put him through, or better yet I hope he completes some sort of redemption arc that by the end of the series sees him get what he's always wanted: love and approval from his family.

It makes zero sense to be on “team Beth.” She has unresolved trauma that is literally no one else’s problem. You can’t hold that kind of hate in your heart and expect to grow as an adult. She’s stuck in adolescence, and knows that anytime she throws a fit “daddy” isn’t going to do anything about it. All John does is enable her bitchy behavior. You can only ride the “can’t have children train” for so long. My stepmother couldn’t give birth, because it would kill her. So instead, she decided to adopt. She loves that kid as if she was her own flesh and blood. She also doesn’t look at her as anything less simply because she didn’t birth the child. So instead of spending a lifetime hating Jamie, she could have put that energy into therapy, recovery, and adoption.

Love how Beth blames Jamie for her sterilization but forgets she got herself in that predicament in the first place and ask Jamie for help. Reap what you sow.

I think John is to blame for how Jaime turned out, specifically… he mentally and emotionally abused him. I think John’s own desire to keep his land clouds his judgement as far as treating his children, Jamie included… it got Lee killed in the first episode of season 1… look at where it’s leading it now, even Beth doesn’t see eye to eye with her father at times throughout the series… I think, the plot needs John to die in order to completely settle. And… with rumors of Costner wanting out of the show, seems very possible that John Dutton’s last day is coming very soon.

Rename to "Best of Beth being unbearable and John losing all sense of logic because of Beth."