Mass Effect 3 Ending - Indoctrination Theory - The Solution
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Published 2012-10-26
-I did not recorded any commentary, every sound and dialogue can be found in the 3 games.
-There are people who think the Indoctrination Theory is only speculation of fans. (wow, you don't say, why do you think it's called Theory?) But just because the player had to think about it, it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
-Bioware wanted the players to speculate. I do not think that was a nice move, but it doesn't make the writing bad it self. I do not protect BioWare's interests, I only protect Mass Effect story.
HOLD THE LINE
All Comments (21)
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I never noticed the similarities in the position Shepard is in and how Leviathan and the Catalyst both are walking towards him like that. Nice catch.
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Yep. Harbinger indoctrinating Shepard. Sovereign communicating with Shepard. Our choice creating the peaceful realm in a new form of Reaper. Shepard possibly surviving, with vengeance. Nazara representing Order. Leviathan partially representing Chaos. Harbinger partially representing Transcendence. Adopt Reaper tech, embody Reaper tech, destroy Reaper tech. Kick that 'clone' off your 'ship', or try to hold your arm out for him. Shepard becomes partially synthetic in ME2. A whole Shepard 2.0, after one 1.0 died. Seeing the world through implants. Red and Blue. Combating Yellow. Shepard becomes gradually more indoctrinated in ME3. A Shepard on the way to a form of 3.0. Seeing the world through a dreamy veil. Red and Blue... and Green. Meeting Cyan, fighting Yellow, bringing on the Magenta. :) Purgatory, Afterlife, Eternity...
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Thank you for posting this. I knew I wasn't crazy your the only person to mention leviathan as more proof to support IT.
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And another comment,you sir got yourself a subscriber :D
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I think this is the most compelling argument for IT so far, since it doesn't waste time with frivolous speculative arguments like infinite ammo or whether or not Anderson was talking to you or TIM. Focus on the arguments that are the most profound and maybe people will take IT more seriously. Having the catalyst's lines repeated almost exactly by Saren and TIM clarifies that Synthesis and Control only serve reaper interests, whether this is a 'dream' or not.
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Great job heres hoping the Next DLC is there big reveal(looking like it) :)
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Damn i knew the leviathan had more hidden thing like this,than's for revealing these to us.
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Hahaha, if you say so dude. I actually didn't needed to fry my brain too much about this. I remembered everything about indoctrination from the previous 2 games. So after seeing the oily-shadows and heard whispers in the dream, I was very suspicious about the ending to begin with. It was merely a few hour work to collect all these material for the video. I just waited for the Leviathan DLC to be sure to post it. And well the conversation with it has the same pattern as with the catalyst. *shrugs
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Yep, we basically got our Harbinger boss fight...
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Serve Us!
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Good video... The more i listen to Leviathan though, i hear Jigsaw from the Saw franchise...
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Thanks! It is, truly an interesting "coincidence"
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-Sorry for my bad english This isn't overspeculating, and it does not "fries" my brain. If you think so you probably never tried it. -So tell me again why does it makes so much sense to you, that the billion year old "collective intelligence of all reapers" uses the form of a human child? -It's the mentioned symbolism. It wans't to make Shepard feel guilty about the people he couldn't save. We all learned these things, it's you who doesn't even try to use it on the game's story
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Thanks! Haha... BioWare: Hello Shepard.. I wanna play a game.
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This is how it should have ended!!!
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I know it's hard to get over the bad ending. There are many plotholes and questionable scenes that can be only explained with A:Horrbile writing, B:Indoctrination. This isn't really about that Indoctrination makes sense or not. It is about, do you believe in the writing skill of the Bioware staff, do they really intended it to look like Indoctrination or those evidances are mistakes (bugs). But think about this they could've removed many evidances that supports IT by patching. But they didn't
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This is a good start to an awesome ending, some company needs to purchase the mass effect name and do a remaster of the trilogy since bio and ea suck ass and won't do it
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It can be. The ending EC or not, has no narration and no explanation. Without these two any fan theory, fanfiction that alters the ending a bit won't be less legit as the original one. So tell me, what's the Story of your Shepard :)
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I think you spent too much time frying your brain from speculating on nothing. Take a break from the computer
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" And well the conversation with it has the same pattern as with the catalyst." *facepalm* How do you know if Bioware was just trying to retroactively foreshadow the ending in a pathetic attempt to make the endings make more sense? I think you fried your brain, the ec dlc was supposed to be the "big reveal" and IT wasn't the case. Would you make a "false" ending, then expand on that "false" ending to make the real ending? *shrugs*
