SKYNET JUST WANT'S TO PAINT!!! | Replying to angry artists

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Published 2023-10-12
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All Comments (21)
  • @S.FENNAH
    Thank you for the respectful response. Well argued. I can get pretty animated and provocative, but that's an instinct I try (try) to restrain - as I'm sure we all do. I've taken notes and will be sure to address your queries in my debate with Shad. Hope you tune in!
  • @Mozers05
    My gf and I were talking about this topic days ago, I remember that she and I came to the conclusion that this ai thing is only going to work at its full potential if you had a certain level of training in art. Like how digital artists cant really do any good stuff (even tho they know how to use photoshop) if they didn't had any kind of training or practice in the fundamentals of drawing and painting. The Ai is just a tool really, and I'm quite curious in using it soon.
  • @Señor-Donjusticia
    1:51:28 So the term “gaslighting” comes from a 1938 British play called “Gas Light.” In the play, the husband is cruel and wants to torment his wife, but he also wants to be subtle about it. So what he does is he turns the gas light down a notch so that the house is slightly dimmer. When his wife comments on this, he claims nothing is wrong, it’s always been this bright. He continues to do this, gradually dimming the gas light while claiming nothing has changed until his wife goes insane from questioning her own sanity because she can see the difference, but her husband pretends not to notice.
  • @patrickbateman3146
    10:30 The lure of convenience is why these digital artists do digital instead of oil and canvas. Because oil and canvas take weeks or months to finish a single painting
  • @Señor-Donjusticia
    You did a very good job in this video, Oz. There was A LOT of restraint, yet you managed to remain calm and rational throughout.
  • @illiteratus
    The problem with AI/ML stuff isn't the efficacy of the tool. It's the side effects. Particularly, the two big ones: Corporate abuse. This provides a "good enough" approach so anyone can do it, at least to a "good enough" quality and art suffers in the commercial realm. OTOH, looking at mobile games... that ship has already sailed. And worse yet, environmental impacts. It is absolutely insane how much power is used with this stuff. We literally don't have enough power where they want to put new data centers. I haven't confirmed it yet, but I heard that a single GPU for this stuff consumes more power than the Average American household per year. It's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 6 months or so.
  • @st0rmrider
    I, for one, welcome our new AI artists/overlords
  • @Señor-Donjusticia
    Picture for a moment two chefs. Because so many are familiar with this property, I will call one Chef Skinner and the other Chef Gustaeu. Due to some unfortunate accident/disease, they have lost the use of their limbs. Because of this, they can no longer use their limbs to cook and must rely on the assistance of their kitchen staff. Chef Skinner sits on a stool and shouts, “MAKE ME SOUP!” The kitchen staff scrambles with the vague instruction and produces a tomato soup before presenting it to Chef Skinner. Chef Skinner, enraged, shouts, “NO! THIS IS WRONG! MAKE A DIFFERENT SOUP!” And so the kitchen staff scrambled again, taking publicly available recipes, trying another random soup, and presenting them to Chef Skinner. Chef Skinner continues to shout at his kitchen staff until he either gives up or they manage to randomly arrive at his artistic vision from his vague instruction. Meanwhile, Chef Gustaeu also sits on a stool in the corner of his kitchen, relying on his kitchen staff. He speaks to his kitchen staff, telling them, “today, we are going to make a French Onion Soup, only we are going to be tweaking the ingredients.” He then proceeds to offer his kitchen staff detailed instructions. The kitchen staff proceeds to follow Chef Gustaeu’s instruction, and as they work, Chef Gustaeu provides further instruction, telling them to add more salt, reduce the thickness of the cheese, etc. When they present a French Onion Soup to them, he provides further instruction and continues working with his kitchen staff until they achieve the French Onion soup that matches his artistic instruction. In a lot of the discussion surrounding AI art, much of the opposition attempts to paint all users of AI art as Chef Skinner in the analogy. They claim that, like Chef Skinner, AI artists do nothing but shout at their computer or pull a slot machine until they get a random result they can settle on. They are, therefore, not artists. Yet even in the Chef Skinner example, he is attempting to direct the cooking. The fact that others must cook the food for him does not take that away. He is still a chef, a cook, and an artist, just not a very good one in this capacity. Chef Gustaeu, by contrast, is a good Chef, cook, and artist. There are certainly AI users who are like Chef Skinner. Little effort is put into mastering the technology and they get corespondent results. But there are also AI users who are like Chef Gustaeu. They put far more work into the guidance of the process, edit, refine the prompts, train the AI, edit more, add on more sketching, edit more, and continue working until the art achieves their vision. Quite a lot of AI users are somewhere in between. The tool remains largely the same, but the technical skill used with the tool and the way the tool is used is what makes the difference.
  • @mordengrey6423
    In agreement with you Oz. Sorry I can't create more controversy.
  • @TheTrilogy082
    Hey Oz. I’m getting into the Halo games. Which is the best Halo game? Or which is your favorite Halo game?
  • @jaytwokay3265
    I do physical art because it’s easier for me than digital. Idk how this is relevant since I forget the rest of what I was gonna say halfway through typing this.
  • @Señor-Donjusticia
    23:37 The same argument he makes here could just as easily be applied to him and every other artists. Why are you using the shortcut of Blender? Sculpt it yourself and animate it yourself. Blender has robbed you of skill because you are using a crutch rather than doing things “hands-on.”
  • @PestoPosta
    >_> 13:37 Hehe... you painted your mom? Bad joke aside, if they accept photography as art, they lose the argument.
  • @uglystupidloser
    sigh. oz's mic rings in the background. turn it down to about a quarter of the volume to barely hear it. 4:10 he says no principle for this stage of the reaction, but i'm pretty sure i heard the guy say that there is limited human input. i would disagree with the video guy, because ai art does require human input currently, but let's say that in the future there is far less human input required to create an image. how is it any different than turning on a tv? because somebody doesn't get paid for it? the guy in the video... is he arguing that there is less skill and human input just to fight with shad and make him seem wrong because he feels personally upset... or is he ok with humans just mindlessly consuming content by scrolling through social media and binging television? he wants to argue to not feel so insignificant. he may not be that good of an artist or knows what he's talking about.