In 2023, the cloud will take networking jobs (and kill Cisco)?

What will the cloud do to Cisco and networking jobs? Big Thank You to Cisco for sponsoring my trip to Amsterdam and this video! // Menu // 00:00 - Coming Up 00:50 - Thomas Scheiber introduction // How Cloud has changed 03:02 - Networking is important in the Cloud 04:27 - Networking is not going away 05:26 - The roadmap to learning Cloud 09:05 - Should I learn AI for Cloud? // How AI can help with the Cloud 10:57 - Security for Cloud 11:25 - Certifications for Cloud 12:37 - Will Cloud destroy Networking? 14:45 - How are data centers changing? 16:50 - Where to start 17:28 - The future of Cloud 19:53 - Virtualisation of physical infrastructure 21:22 - Conclusion // Thomas Social // Twitter: twitter.com/thomas0002 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/thomasscheibe Cisco Blog: blogs.cisco.com/author/thomasscheibe // David's Social // Discord: discord.gg/davidbombal Twitter: www.twitter.com/davidbombal Instagram: www.instagram.com/davidbombal LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/davidbombal Facebook: www.facebook.com/davidbombal.co TikTok: tiktok.com/@davidbombal YouTube Main Channel: youtube.com/davidbombal YouTube Tech Channel: youtube.com/channel/UCZTIRrENWr_rjVoA7BcUE_A YouTube Clips Channel: www.youtube.com/channel/UCbY5wGxQgIiAeMdNkW5wM6Q YouTube Shorts Channel: www.youtube.com/channel/UCEyCubIF0e8MYi1jkgVepKg Apple Podcast: davidbombal.wiki/applepodcast Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/3f6k6gERfuriI96efWWLQQ // Talos // Website: www.talosintelligence.com/ Blog: blog.talosintelligence.com/ // MY STUFF // www.amazon.com/shop/davidbombal // SPONSORS // Interested in sponsoring my videos? Reach out to my team here: sponsors@davidbombal.com/

People act like if the cloud isnt a bunch of servers connected 🤣

Cloud won't kill Cisco, absolutely outrageous pricing and foolish license practices will.

Cloud doesn't work without traditional networking let's be honest SDN and MPLS is still used

Great interview I agree, networking ain’t going anywhere. I always thought of networking as a good foundation.💯

It's mid 2024, and this video isn't aging very well so far. If you look at where things were a few years ago and look at where things are now, there is a clear trend toward fewer and fewer networking jobs.

As a cloud network automation engineer, I've seen a shift in mindset of devops folks to just have networking delivered to them as a service. Core networking, however important, will no longer be enough and you will need to learn a whole lot of new workflows, delivery systems etc. Especially if companies are moving to Cloud and reducing their on-prem footprint, somebody skilled at deploying automated configuration is preferred over someone only having CLI experiences on different vendors. Network design people will also have to shift focus from traditional core/access setup to Cloud network design and work with devops side to understand service dependencies, granular access controls, observability/monitoring/logging setups.

Thomas rocks as always!!! Cisco is not going anywhere. Cloud is the network, and the network is Cisco!!!!

As an aws employee from a network background , networking is not going away but it will be more or less reduced to a service as routing becomes more application centric and it is easy to master a service vs a domain like how networking was before , hence learning networks wont be enough and you need to know so much more know and get more comfortable with automation if not master it .This is a huge upset for people who have gathered 4-5 CCIEs over the span of their career as they would have fared better if they would have just learned Python.

Hello David. Well said, "you have to be flexible to learn new technologies" I have been following you since 2012. You started with hardcore networking and now you talk about anything and everything happening in IT field. Glad to hear on this topic from you.

My physical networking knowledge helped me transition into cloud.You have to know networking in order to do cybersecurity and cloud security.

Thanks, David, & Thomas. "routing is not going away'. Great to hear. I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Great interview. In my opinion I think it's good to have base knowledge of routing and switching. Then now you can take any path be it cloud, security. Networking is not going anywhere. Cloud can't exist without routing

I have done Networking, Security, and Operating Systems (Linux, Windows etc) for the past 10 years and the cloud was so so so easy to jump into with my past skills. So, if you really want to enjoy the cloud and take things easy, it's better if you learn the traditional IT stuff including N+, Security, and some good language. Also, could you try to learn some IDE tools... to advice my little self, I will still learn the traditional N+ & IT before going into cloud eng. :)

I own a SmB and we are a systems integrator doing primarily cisco.. 17 years and I see, we still need the traditional knowledge, cloud eliminates a lot of the technical challenges, brings projects on-board much faster and staff are more able to potentially expand their portfolios .. business side, less trial/error, much more documented/structured approach and in fact you can make more money whilst lowering per project costs (volume).... it's exciting to have the challenge.. for younger people , still need your foundation before going into things like devnet, cyber etc...

What a great interview! Yesterday I was looking for job opportunities and I notice that Cisco+AWS is a combination required for some companies. I will keep that in my mind. Thank you for the content.

Networking is more important than ever. In networking, you're going to be the center no matter what you're going to do. Why don't I believe this guy?

4:10-4:27 Well, that answers my question on the future of networking.

Thank you, David and Thomas for sharing your perspective on this subject. 🙂

Fantastic interview. Thanks Thomas and David for bringing it to us.