THE PROBLEM WITH THE DARK KNIGHT 'S RA'S AL GHUL

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Published 2024-06-05
Liam Neeson played the part of Ra's Al Ghul in The Dark Knight trilogy.
While he portrayed the villain masterfully, there were one or two issues with said performance.
Regardless he was brilliant and made for a great on screen foe for Batman.

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All Comments (21)
  • I was actuelly suprised when he came back for the third act of batman begins being reveld as the True main villain of the movie, i really didn't see that coming
  • @pianist150
    Best scene of the movie - (Old Lady walks up to Bruce) Old Lady: Bruce meet my friend, Mr. Razzzz Al Ghuuul. Bruce (very clearly to both Ra's and Old Lady): You're not Ra's Al Ghul. Ra's Al Ghul is dead. I watched him die. (Old Lady quietly leaves)
  • @Aistis1918
    The thing with Ra's Al Ghul being a title is that it's literally how it is in the comics. Ra's isn't his real name, but he and his descendents uses it as one.
  • While I agree that Liam Nelson was Ra's al Ghul throughout the entirety of Batman Begins I still think that's a title that could have been passed down to him during his early years of serving the League of Shadows while Talia and Bane are still down in the pit, so the timeline of events could be this. 1, Liam Nelson's Henry Ducard is exiled by the warlord he had been working for while his pregnant wife is sent down into the pit. 2, during first few years of his Exile he's eventually found and taken in by the League of Shadows of that era Talia would only be a few years old at this point. 3, during the last few years before Talia eventually escapes the pit her father by this point has been passed down the title of Ra's al Ghul after the prior one was either taken out during a mission or actually sacrificed himself to accomplish the mission. 4, Talia escapes and finds her father who goes back to the pit to take out most of the prisoners and to rescue the one who saved his daughter. 5, Bane and taila are taken in by the league and trained. I would have loved to see flashbacks between Bane and Ra's al Ghul to see the dynamic of that relationship because I believe bane would have a huge amount of respect appreciation and admiration for the one who rescued him from that hellish pit and providing him a path which is why he's so willing to buy into and serve the cause of the League of Shadows because he feels like he owes them in a way despite being as strong as he is he could never Escape that pit he had to be saved and that's something that should also bother him a bit much like Batman had been taunted by both Joker and the hallucination of Ra's al Ghul about despite all his strength and resources there were still certain things he was unable to accomplish.
  • I've always thought of Ra's al-Ghul as more of a James Bond style of villain than a Batman villain. He doesn't have (except for "demons," perhaps) a clearly defined gimmick, and (except for the immortality) he's someone who could plausibly exist in our own world. But Batman himself has described Ra's as perhaps his greatest foe, and I think he could be correct. As terrifying as the Joker is, he doesn't seek genocide of the human species; at worst, he wants to keep at least a few people alive as "harvests" for his ongoing terrorism (and, of course, he NEVER wants to kill Batman). How Ra's is physically embodied really doesn't concern me. His background should be kept completely mysterious - and in fact, when I first saw him, I wondered if he were really human at all. He has either blue or green eyes in almost all depictions, and on the '90s animated series he was voiced - superbly - by the British actor David Warner, so I like to think he could be almost any man. (The eye color could be contact lenses, after all.) The only reason I'd like to see him depicted as South Asian is because I want Naomi Scott as Talia. I think that would be perfect, because I think one of the best ways of describing Talia al-Ghul is "evil Princess Jasmine." It's a shame, though, that we'll probably never get to see the "real" Henri Ducard. I remember encountering him in the comics well before I saw any of the Nolan films, and he's someone I think could have fit very well into Nolan's world: a coldly pragmatic French police detective, someone not unlike Boba Fett of STAR WARS fame, only without the anonymity and striking costume.
  • Ras al Ghul is very different from other villains. He represents the path Batman could have taken. And unlike the criminals, who wreak havok in Gotham for their own personal reasons, Ras is like a force of judgement against the city itself for creating these criminals. If the Joker is like the final boss of a video game, Ras is more like the "Game Over" screen.
  • @cooperminion825
    I loved Michael Caine as Alfred. It opened a whole new path for other Alfreds with him being the first cockney Alfred. Thanks to him we got John Pertwee (son of the 3rd Doctor) as a more physical Alfred in Gotham. This Alfred looks like he's most adept in close range combat (a brawler) compared to the more common variations of Alfred. The more common variation has Alfred as more of a mid to long range fighter who often snipes down those who intrude with evil intentions. The Alfred we got with Michael Caine didn't strike me as a fighter type but he led the way for the more brawler type Alfreds to come along
  • I think the biggest indication that Ken Watanabe's character was never supposed to be Ra's was how quickly he dies in his fight scene.
  • can anyone else get behind a realistic clayface thats just an actor/serial killer and a detective driven batman
  • @sidarth632
    Also, like you said liam neeson was an amazing choice for this role so I don't really take issue with the fact that he's irish.
  • @joshfactor1
    you know, they say criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot but i think ra's might be the exception to the rule
  • While it’s not Fully Accurate, this is my favorite Villain of the Trilogy.
  • My biggest problem was how they pronounced his title... Its pronounced "Raysh"... not "Rozz".
  • @seanmalloy0528
    My biggest issue is all the realism and not enough comic elements
  • @chrisblanc663
    I think people got the idea of Ras Al Ghul being a title based off of the arrowverse. But obviously in this movie it’s just the guys name. The point being that he is constantly minding his surroundings, and didn’t fully trust Wayne yet with all the leagues secrets.
  • @user-ln9kz4xp9t
    Alfred is my favorite Batman character. I don’t care what anyone says, had it not been for that man looking after Bruce with a loving and kind heart and guiding him down brighter path when he would have chosen darker ones, the Batman would not exist. Not without Alfred. Alfred is the greatest sidekick of all time and nobody even knows it. He is more of a sidekick/mentor but he is my favorite Batman character.