Why Did All These Features Get Cut From Forza Horizon 5?

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Published 2023-08-09
We're heading back to FH4 today to look at many of the features that got cut in the transition to FH5! Were PGG just cutting the dead weight? Or did they remove important features that players want back?

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0:00 Intro
1:40 Ranked Racing
5:30 Team Racing
6:40 Private Adventure
9:05 Freeroam Rush
10:30 Forzathon Live
12:50 Rivals Challenge
14:16 Online Features Review
15:45 Businesses
18:30 Seasons
21:45 Beauty Spots
22:20 Star Cards
23:20 Backstage Pass
24:45 Overall Revi

All Comments (21)
  • I'm still not over the cutting drivertar convoys from FH3. It made just roaming around the map a lot of fun, though personally I don't enjoy the map enough for that anyway.
  • @ShatteredQvartz
    There's no day where I don't miss FH2's single player themed championships These were so fun and actually made you try new cars and builds
  • @Infamous.07
    In my opinion, the only reason FH5's Horizon Arcade is so much less popular than FH4's Forzathon Live is because in FH4, you were notified if there was going to be one happening soon, and would be able to have the route set on your map 10 minutes in advance to the forzathon live starting. This is completely missing from FH5 so people don't know if one is happening or not, and so they aren't enticed to make their way to a meet.
  • @NickName183
    18:07 FH3 had the best substitute to businesses IMO. Having your friends be in your lineup, and them getting some revenue from the races their drivatar appeared in, each time they logged in really elevated the social aspect. Also I’m still very bitter that championships, at least offline, were removed after FH3. They added an element of replayability. You could choose up to 10 races in the order you wanted, the car theme (brands, decades, country of origin etc.), the amount of laps each race, their time of day (whether rolling or fixed) and weather conditions.
  • @jewelsvevo8153
    Forzathon Live was honestly so much cooler then Horizon Arcade I used to play Forzathon Live all the time whenever it showed up while now I only played Horizon Arcade to get the associated Accolades
  • @tctt185_dg
    Another minor touch in FH4 that I missed is that in the same menu that shows you temperature and weather, it also shows you what song is currently playing from what radio station + the songs album art. I missed that feature and I would LOVE to see it in FH5... also, add in a Spotify Radio Station so that we can play our own playlists. Oh yeah, the Horizon Backstage. I remembered it was leaked a while ago for FH5 but I think they scrapped it because I can't find it anywhere. I don't mind it returning from FH4 to FH5, but it does make sense why it is initially not available in FH5 at the moment. We used to vote for two Exclusive cars and people tend to rig the vote in favor for; the car that is OP in Online Racing... or the car that costs the least just for trolls. If they want to bring it back, maybe improve the system, or... how about bypass the voting and select any New Exclusives from Past Series. As I said, I would LOVE to see Backstage return and have it available for ALL of the Horizon Outposts cause there is some obvious spots that you don't often drive to while at that Outpost. There's like; an undercover section next to the Drag Strip on the Horizon Mexico Outpost, the few offroad splits in front of the Music Stage at the Horizon Rush, an offroad path that leads you to the waterfalls at Horizon Wilds, the beach behind Horizon Apex, the gap that is on the side of the Music Stage at Street Scene... yeah... don't ask me about where the Backstage Area could go for Horizon Baja - I have no clue.
  • @metrix8155
    What I miss the most about fh4 is the snow. Winter was my favorite season, and I just don't have anything similar in fh5. I know it wasn't loved by everyone, but I wish we would've gotten a bit more.
  • @pipedreamin
    Part of the reason seasons don’t have much variation is because in Mexico there really isn’t a lot of change visually, no snow etc, mostly temperature and weather patterns. In game we really don’t feel the temperature which is the big change, they should reduce car power in summer to simulate A/C which you can’t live without in the summer. 🥵
  • @scrustle
    I think the lack of distinction between seasons in FH5 is simply down to the location. Mexico just doesn't get that much of a change in climate year round like the UK does. It was never really going to work, and it was something I was worried about happening as soon as the location was announced. I think the reason FH4 did seasons in the first place was down to the setting as well. The UK isn't really a particularly visually striking setting, so seasons was a great way to give it variety. And of course Playground being based in the UK, they had much more ability to get reference material year round compared to what they had done before. Seasons being in FH5 honestly just feels like it was there as a carry-over feature from the last game. They were afraid to make it seem like they were cutting something big. But it would have been better if they just focused on a single season and tried to realise it as best as they could, like they did in older games. I don't think they would even need to ditch the live service style seasonal update model in the process. There's no reason why new waves of content have to coincide with changes in weather of the game world. It seems like such a waste of development resources too. It must take a huge amount of effort to create four different versions of the entire game world, even if those changes aren't huge. And to do so based on a country half way across the globe too. For something a lot of players don't even notice.
  • @japhetaguirre4880
    I'm playing Forza Horizon 4 right now. Bought the ultimate edition last steam summer sale for cheap. I'm loving it coming from FH5.
  • @rotomon
    Mixing RWD and AWD drift lobbies is the single biggest complaint I have with FH5 Either split the leaderboards or separate them again.
  • @Jamezontoast
    Everything they promised with Forza Horizon 5 made it seem so fun, but honestly the one thing FH5 is missing is lasting fun
  • @chrisgarrett6305
    I really hope that if fh6 releases, during winter half of the map should be snowy. They way there’s still dry areas to drive in winter, but there’s still snow to play around in.
  • @pandanutiypanda
    As a person who loved snow rally and going for highscore on PR stunts, i believe seasons issue could have be solved for both groups of people. There could have been 4 "lobbies" for each season for freeroam where people would join the specific season lobby they want and enjoy beautiful and colorful seasons, allowing people to do PR stunts without rain or snow constantly ruining any chance to get high score. But at the same time, weekly races/challenges would still have locked seasons
  • @Izhkoort
    I really had more fun in FH4, FH5 seems more of a chore every week, because playing online against meta cars is pretty boring, and many things appear to be FH4 with extra steps (waiting for launching some older cars and all that)
  • @thegirthquake8574
    I for one LOVED driving in winter in FH4. That added "challenge" could be mitigated with snow tires, and frankly it felt cool driving a hypercar on snow tires.
  • @jaredtrp
    Dude, I missed out on FH4, so I had no idea about backstage passes. There's only about 10 cars I'm missing in FH5. They need to bring that back!
  • @dafyddthomas7299
    Missed the trams from Edinburgh FH4 and wish they could have more rail tracks + locomotives plying the rail lines.
  • @S0ulC41ib3r
    Honestly they should do away with accolades moving forward. It was a botched system in the FH4 lego dlc. And as a completionist, being forced to do a part of the game I already dislike made me stop playing altogether. Battle Royales will simply never be fun for certain people.
  • @razkinzmangowurzel
    spec rivals was one of the best features in fh4 for rivals players like myself, the popular spec rivals are still more popular than the most popular fh5 rivals with top players. fh4 often gets more new records from the absolute best than fh5 does, a lot of these coming from spec rivals