Making the Case for Amillennialism | Revelation 20

Publicado 2022-08-07
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  • @Petyeo1
    All of my life I have listened to some great Bible teachers, many of whom have a different view on end time theology (eschatology), and I too have my own thoughts, but if the truth be known, no one can be dogmatic about that which is yet to happen. Of course, we can imagine, speculate, presume and have an opinion on what how it will all pan out from our personal understanding of scripture, but the only thing we know for sure is that Jesus is coming and we must be ready!
  • @Anders01
    Great topic! I was just looking into the thousands years of Christ and became puzzled about it. It will be interesting to hear the amillennian perspective.
  • @theresawebb8064
    Wow I been looking for someone that has the view I do and you all are SPOT ON, what I believe. Idk if the older of the men, is the guy in the middles grandpa, SORRY idk y'all names, but I thought I heard u call him pop or something i think, but just loved it and laughed along, when u started your joke on the saducees, and the elder gentlemen laughed, just loved his reaction.❤ I was about to say the joke along with ya😂I subscribed and I'll be watching y'all from now on ,God bless❤👃
  • I turned from Premillelianism to Amillenialism in five years ago after I studied the Bible carefully. Good job guys. God bless you.
  • @notallgarbage
    If you are non-dispensational, do not use the term "church age", because this term is non-biblical and was bred from dispensationalism. If you reject dispensationalism, there is 1 assembly, 1 church, to which we are grafted upon believing (Romans 11).
  • I appreciate this discussion, and good points were being made. However - the man in the middle talks way too fast and, for me, is very difficult to endure. I had to quit this about halfway through for that reason.
  • @Revolver1701
    The millennium is a period of 1000 years of peace that Christian’s fight about.
  • I’ve used a Scofield Study Bible for 40 years, and I’ve been a devout student of Dispensationalism, but now I realize I was blinded to the truth. Scofield and his teaching are fraudulent.
  • It's funny how he said "the one I disagree with the most is postmill." Then goes on to say the 14 out of 15 things that amill has in common with postmill. Lol
  • @jjmulvihill
    Amil is also reigning now on Earth from Heaven. Mathew 28:18 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 1Cor15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. Rev1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. -Kings of what? This is present tense. Jesus rules on Earth, right now. Who is the clay to ask what the potter is making? Life is a trial by fire. How can God judge the faithful, unless their faith is tried. What has always been said? That God always has a remnant.
  • @MisterN0b0dy
    If amillennialism is correct and the Devil is currently bound so that his influence is less now than it was prior to Christ’s death and resurrection, and the Saints are ruling, the question has to be asked: how come not only is there so much obvious evil prevalent in the world today, but it also continues to get demonstrably worse? 1 Peter 5:8 tells us to: Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. If the Devil is bound, how can he at the same time be walking about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour? It cannot be both at the same time. If Satan is bound: 1. Why did Christ commission Paul to turn Jew and Gentile “from the power of Satan to God” (Acts 26:18)? 2. Why could Paul deliver the Corinthian fornicator to Satan (1 Corinthians 5:5)? 3. Why Satan can transform himself into “an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14)? 4. Why Paul would warn the Ephesian believers not to “give place to the Devil” (Ephesians 4:27) and urge them and us today to “stand against the wiles of the Devil” (Ephesians 6:11)? 5. How could Satan still continually be able to accuse Christians before God and, with his angels, wage war in heaven against “Michael and his angels” and at last be cast out of heaven to earth (Revelation 12:7-10) 6. How could Satan hinder Paul coming to the church at Thessalonica (1 Thessalonians 2:18)? 7. Why would Paul be concerned that Satan was able to tempt the Thessalonians and render his labour in vain (1 Thessalonians 3:5)? These questions demand amillennialism to stand up to biblical scrutiny and provide an answer. Sadly, the only answer I have received from amillennialists so far is there insistence that the Devil is currently bound, but is just on a long chain! The reason WHY the Devil will be bound by God in the future is made clear in Revelation 20:3: And he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while. According to Revelation 20:3, the Devil will not be able to deceive the nations during the time he is bound. Therefore, if amillennialism is correct and the Devil is bound now, he should not currently be able to deceive the nations. Does any Christian really believe the Devil is not currently influencing and deceiving the nations? You only have to consider the following three titles that point to Satan’s authority in this world: “The ruler of this world” (John 12:31). “The god of this age” (2 Corinthians 4:4). “The prince of the power of the air” (Ephesians 2:2). So according to amillennialism “the ruler of this world”, “the god of this age” and “the prince of the power of the air” is bound now and unable to deceive the nations! 1 John 5:19 tells us: And the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one. How could the whole world be “under the sway” (i.e. the “power” as other Bible versions translate it) of the Devil if he is currently unable to deceive the nations? 2 Corinthians 11:14 says that Satan transforms himself into “an angel of light”, which very clearly describes his ability and inclination to deceive. We have to ask if Satan is bound now and therefore unable to deceive the nations, who are “the nations” referred to in Revelation 20:3? Are they just the non-believers in the world? That cannot be the case, because Scripture is clear that Satan is the current ruler of this world and anyone not in Christ’s kingdom is (knowingly or not) deceived and part of Satan’s kingdom. As just one example, Paul states in Ephesians 2:2 that the Devil “now works in the sons of disobedience”. Does “the nations” therefore refer to Christians? That cannot be the case either because believers are warned time and time again in the New Testament about the danger of being deceived. For example, Paul warned the church about being deceived in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4; 13-15 and Galatians 6:7. Paul exhorted believers to: Test all things; hold fast what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Why would believers need to test all things if we cannot be deceived? Paul warned: Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1). It is absolutely clear that Christians can be deceived, and that a sign of Jesus’ Second Coming getting closer will be that believers will be deceived, and Satan is the cause of the deception. As it is clear that both believers and non-believers can currently be deceived, it is obvious that Revelation 20:3 is referring to a future event where the Devil will be bound and unable to deceive the nations. Therefore, we cannot currently be in the Millennium, as amillennialists today continue to claim.
  • @ronbo30
    Amil has some good points. But I just can’t accept the first resurrection being spiritual.
  • @leahwhite1417
    Great discussion topic that I've ALWAYS wondered about. As you were discussing the birds gathering and eating flesh, I remember Matt 24 and Luke 17..."where the dead bodies are the vultures(eagles) will gather". I didn't hear you connect those references. Should they be?
  • I'm a little late to the party. But maybe I'm just not listening well enough (I'm still learning and it's challenging doing so by myself as I'm kind of an awkward person socially) I suppose I'd be considered believing amillenial since the way I read it Jesus is the lamb who is worthy opening the seals in heaven currently? And with the battle it says Jesus will come down and slay the beast and throw them in the pit during a 1000 year millennial reign and I forget the reference but I believe I read it casts some of the surviving nations to the valleys and at the end of which when the beast comes out of the pit at the end of the 1000 years of millennial reign Jesus casts him the false profit and all the wicked into the lake of fire and the great white judgment takes place where all will be judged by their faith and acts. So I think that it's different battles not the same one. Does that sound fairly on point or is there something I'm missing?