The 3 SIGNS You're Dealing With A Narcissist & How To SET BOUNDARIES! | Dr. Ramani & Jay Shetty

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Published 2022-12-12
Today, I am talking to Dr. Ramani Durvasula, a licensed clinical psychologist in Los Angeles, CA, Professor Emerita of Psychology at California State University, Los Angeles, and the Founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training & Consulting. She is an author of several books including Should I Stay or Should I Go: Surviving A Relationship with a Narcissist, and “Don’t You Know Who I Am?”: How to Stay Sane in an Era of Narcissism, Entitlement, and Incivility. The focus of Dr. Durvasula’s clinical, academic and consultative work is the etiology and impact of narcissism and high-conflict, entitled, antagonistic personality styles on human relationships, mental health, and societal expectations.

Dr. Ramani shares her studies about narcissism and our narcissistic tendencies. She and I talk about how our personalities define how we act with people and around people, why narcissists are resistant to change and to how deal with one, the truth about gaslighting and why it is so unhealthy to the person at the receiving end, and why we shouldn't misplace our hopes in others and instead place it on ourselves.

What We Discuss:
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:11 When did narcissism become a study of focus?
00:07:06 Narcissism is a very quiet condition
00:12:45 Awareness and discomfort
00:19:37 How do people end up with a narcissistic personality?
00:26:25 Narcissists can be very attractive
00:33:26 The concept of multiple truths
00:36:40 Love bombing
00:41:08 The real meaning of gaslighting
00:47:05 Dealing with a gaslighter
00:53:35 “I can change this person.”
01:00:07 Ultimate healing from a narcissistic relationship
01:04:31 Setting healthy boundaries
01:06:49 Adopting narcissistic patterns to be able to fight back
01:09:20 Misplaced hope

All Comments (21)
  • I was married to one for 38 years. I became very sick and like a mad person. I blamed myself. I realized just 2 years ago after the divorce. Thanks to to all your podcasts and a few others. Thanks for the realization of this condition. Today I am physically healed 80 percent.thanks all of you 🙏🏻
  • Could we say that genuine/sincere and kind people are the narcissist's kryptonite and thus the narcissist's number one target?
  • This made me cry. I grieve for my younger innocent sweet self. Much stronger now. Life is good. Thank God for therapists 🙏🏼♥️
  • @yukio_saito
    50:50 Don’t Go DEEP: 🚫 Don't Defend 🚫 Don't Engage 🚫 Don't Explain 🚫 Don't Persona
  • Narcissistic and abusive relationships work on the same brain principles as a drug addiction. Just enough to keep you hooked. But the lows are TERRIBLE. Don't judge people who "stay with the abuser". Often the abuser keeps them terrified of leaving, and they are scared to - for good reason!
  • @gwendolyn79
    I was married to a covert narcissist for 9 years and have a 7 year old daughter. The biggest red flag for me in the beginning was the love bombing and moving extremely fast. Why I stayed so long? I found out after I left what a narcissist was…and the connection. I’m used to manipulation. My mom and sister did it for years. Learning about narcissism has helped me tremendously. I’m so mad at myself but I’m learning to forgive me like I did for everyone else in the past. I loss so much in 9 years but I never stopped working on my dreams but I was like God come one I’m working so hard here. I knew I was going to leave but I was planning it out. Well, nothing was working out for me financially and one day I just told him it was over and to leave. I HAD NOTHING AND NO ONE TO HELP ME. Literally the next week I got the a job as a Web Designer (Government contract) and my blessings have been pouring in big time. I’m still in survival mode but I’m working on getting out of that and healing my trauma. I do Uber eats in the morning and a web designer at night. All while working on my credit, and applying for other web site jobs. I refuse to let him win. I refuse to let my mother win. The old me died the day he discarded me. But he discarded me after I told him it was over so he kept doing things to hurt me. The best thing I did was separate from him, my mom and my sister. Now it’s time to heal and rebuild.
  • I literally said I finally want to be heard and seen. About 2 weeks ago. I am 60 and recovering from a covert narcissist relationship. It was only 9 months long before I saw the cycle of abuse and went no contact. 9 plus months I am still doing my childhood trauma healing as a result of this relationship. I am thankful for that.
  • @bettinacastro
    I was waking up with crisis of anxiety every morning for 4 months without knowing why. Thanks to my journaling practice I was able to identify all the patterns of my narcissistic ex. Little by little I started planning to leave him and I did. Has been the best decision of my life. If you are in a relationship like this. Keep strong and start making the little steps to put yourself in a safer, better place. My prayers are with you ❤
  • I remember when I was still living with my narc ex husband that I felt a dark spiritual cloud over my head, and all I could think was, "I need to get back to being me." When I filed my restraining order and moved out, that's when I began to heal.
  • @someonerandom1111
    Every word from Dr. Ramani is just gold. I have to listen over and over again so that I can cultivate this into myself and protect myself.
  • @laura-2
    Being with my ex narc for the past 8 yrs. made me observe this very pattern. I think they wanted to feel very important in a way that is disturbing. Instead of building trust with their intimate partners, they destroy the trust that they built with you (in that case lying when they tried to put you in their pedestal). Once they have a committed partner, they can’t stand being loved authentically by one person. Instead they go on and prey on other women that is susceptible to their love bombing. My ex narc was a compulsive pursuer in a relationship. He would go back and forth to the women he were involved before or try to meet women in complicated situation so that going public isn’t an option while having you as their main supply. In the end they destroy the very person that loved them. They are like toddlers testing your love for them. Showing and telling them you love them isn’t enough, they will cheat on your face to make you feel inadequate even if you are more than they deserve. They want to test your love for them so they keep hurting you and when you have enough of their abuse, you leave. Then they tell you, ‘you never loved me because you abandon me’. Well in fact it’s their actions and narcissistic behavior that made you leave or in other cases they discard you and will give silly reasons of the discard. Mine would use, ‘she’s crazy’, ‘she’s a nega-star’, ‘she insults me’, ‘she cheated on me’ et al. So with this pattern of infidelities and emotional abuse (who knows what else) it’s better to walk away. I did walk away and is now rebuilding my life with our daughter. We are struggling financially because I’m not earning enough to provide for my daughter but now we get to laugh and bring with us sunshine every day. No lies, no abuse and no fake love. We only live once, forgive yourself and move forward but never forget the lesson that narc abuse taught you. That is to respect yourself to walk away from what’s hurting and destroying you. That you deserve a life of solitude, happiness and love. Hugs*** :) Additionally I got to know about my narc husband bad ways when I reach out to a private detective Metaspyhub@gmail. com for help he did a perfect work for me I can see everything he’s doing on his device.
  • @DaiLuvsGlitz
    44:35: I literally just burst into tears because this was ME. Taking the blame for things I hadn’t even done or things that didn’t even happened “yet”. Wow I am so happy to be out of that relationship and to feel like myself again.
  • @monalise6079
    A previous boyfriend years ago appeared like a friendly kitten initially. A few months later, he appeared more like a grown tiger. I was quite confused why he was so mean. Years later, I'm understanding that the mistreatment towards me wasn't my fault. Thank you Dr. Ramani for sharing your knowledge with good people like me. I like myself again.
  • The ability to say "No" is a superpower to expose narcissistic energy.
  • @emromm
    There’s so much power in staying at surface level with people like this. It’s imperative.
  • I was able to leave and go-no contact with a 15-year relationship during the pandemic after discovering and binging Dr. Ramani's YT videos. Blessings + gratitude. I'm one of the saved.
  • @amjaadjad514
    I love this woman. I sent her channel to my mother because my grandmother is a narcissist and I recognized how my mother has severe psychological burns from her. She helped my mother recognize the gaslighting and rage episodes.. Thank you so much, Doctor ❤
  • Loved this session with Dr Ramani and Jay!! I was with a narcissist for 17 years!! I didn’t realise it till I got out of it, I was blamed for everything and to the point I was feeling so guilty .I tried my best to help because I loved him in spite of him being abusive, controlling and cohesive . I tried to change myself so much for him that I was losing myself. There was no respect though he always said he loved me !! He always wanted to be the PRIORITY!!! Then it became …I say , you do …but nothing changed. There was good times too. It took me so long to realise that I could not fix things and the emotional abuse was taking a toll on me. I am so glad I am out toxic relationship.
  • @warriorpride79
    I was planning to leave my gf tomorrow. Im tired for many different reasons. I decided to watch some videos to help me solidify my position. I didnt think she was a real narcissist, maybe just some characteristics. I decided to watch this, half sacred I would find out I fit the description of a narcissist. Come to find out, my gf fits 1000%. Im ending it tomorrow for good. This is a blessing and the push I needed to literally save myself.
  • Jay. Honestly I put my hand on my heart. I have left a marriage of 17 YEARS of such relationship. Now I'm finally free! Now freedom is now a new life I must learn to live. It's hard to believe this new life of healing is over coming the pains and shame. It's a process. It takes time. I know now life can only get better for my daughter and I. Your podcast is part of of my healing process. So thank you 🙏