Why Indonesia is pushing back against EU rules | DW News

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The EU's law to ban deforestation from the supply chains of its companies is frustrating trade partners abroad. Just take Indonesia, which says the law is harming its small farmers. The spat comes as the two are thrashing out a free trade deal and the EU needs Indonesia’s supply of minerals for batteries and computer chips. So does the EU back down on its environmental principles or put at risk its relationship with Indonesia and potentially harm important industries? DW's Daniel Winter spoke with Indonesia’s ambassador to Germany, Arief Havas Oegroseno, asking him if they’re close to sealing a deal.


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All Comments (21)
  • @araara4746
    EU: "We banned Indonesian palm oil because it is not environmentally friendly." Also EU: "We want Indonesian nickel, even though it is also not environmentally friendly."
  • @stefansb3802
    Indonesia never banned Nickel export, the export ban was on raw Nickel ore, so if you need Nickel you have to process it in Indonesian soil. Simple as that.
  • "Do you think European being a hypocrite? His answer was savage... " ABSOLUTELY"
  • @gabybatubara
    Indonesia is not a flawless country... of course we have our own problems and challenges. However, watching people like Mr. Arief Havas Oegroseno represent Indonesia with such a strong stance and confidence on global news makes me very proud to be an Indonesian. We need more people like him and furthermore we must protect our natural resources from modern "trade imperialism"
  • @nunyabiznes33
    "We don't want you to harm your environment by cutting forests but we want you to harm your environment by mining for us"
  • @iggy5347
    Indonesia has the right to defend herself
  • Support for Indonesia from México 🇲🇽🤝🏽🇮🇩 we need to stand strong and together, support each other against the oppressive imperialist practices of the Anglo-Saxon community Eurocentric and those bad hombres of the United States. World united against imperialism 👊🏽
  • @nothingness1425
    EU: "We banned Russian gas and oil because they come from Russia." Also EU: "We buy Russian gas and oil through the 3rd parties although they still come from Russia." And directly as well.
  • @joMan1060
    Indonesia didnt need EU to buy Indonesian Nickle.. we have Korean, Japanese, China, Canada, even Indonesia work with Australia for EV battery. those country are willing to work with Indonesia so that Indonesia can get Added value from Nickle. the issue is EU Forcing Indonesia to export raw Nickel to EU by attacking Indonesia in WTO... so EU need Indonesia raw nickel and Forcing Indonesia to export it RAW. exporting RAW will only benefit EU and Indonesia only become cheap labour miner..... Imperialsim mentality is strong with EU.
  • @ollysav9857
    As a fine man once said, "Europes problems are the worlds problems, but the worlds problems are not Europes problems"
  • @carvalhobiel
    Way to go Indonesia, all the support from Brazil on you fight against imperialism! 🇧🇷 I can't stand the Global North's hypocrisy, in the Brazil-EU negotiations it was the same - we should open our public auctions for European companies to enter freely, but EU wouldn't buy our commodities that would compete with their local markets alleging environmental reasons. The free market only exists for them to enter in the Global South, but there's always an excuse to avoid our companies there (TikTok was just the latest). It always reminds me of Ha-Joon Chang's Kicking Away the Ladder, how they consistently try to stop us from following the steps that led to their development. I loved when the ambassador called out the explicite imperialism, just like how Guyana's president recently responded to a BBC's interviewer attempt to lecture them on climate responsibilities. And I knew that Indonesia had a strong growth, but I wasn't aware it had been going high consistently for so many years, got really curious to learn more about Indonesia's modern history and the factors that allowed for such consistent growth (in Brazil for years our growth is compared to chickens' flight a small upwards curve which quickly comes back down haha).
  • @hansinglauw863
    Inilah kenapa pendidikan harus maju di Indonesia, terlihat dari jawaban Pak Arief Havas. 👍👍👍 God bless Indonesia 🙏🇮🇩
  • Indonesian President Jokowi said : Nickel is our nickel, it's ours from Indonesia, it's up to us what we want to do.
  • @timawa22
    Good to know ASEAN countries starting to assert themselves especially against powerful countries.
  • @jerrywu6337
    EU : hey we want to buy nickel from you but we want it cheap ID : but we don't want to sell it cheap, you have to built industries in our country EU : You can't do that ID : It's ours so we can do what we want EU : It's a crime if it's not cheap I mean this is ridiculous, are you buying or are you robbing?😂
  • Respects to Indonesian government for protecting their small farmers and local businessmen against imperialism.
  • @skimidot92
    It's raw nickel export ban, not all kinds of nickel products. Indonesia welcomes other countries to invest in nickel downstreaming industries in Indonesia. The one making problem here is the EU, they don't want to invest in Indonesia but they want only nickel ores. When Indonesia only exported the ores, the value was around $1 billion. But after raw nickel export ban in effect and nickel products start being exported, the export value rose to $30 billions. The nickel industries also employ more than 100k people.
  • @james7286
    Thank you Mr. Ambassador, Indonesia have the right to defend it's interests!
  • @davaamri
    well mannered and well spoken ambassador of indonesia