Was There An Advanced Civilization Before Humans? | Answers With Joe

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It took humans 10,000 years to go from hunter-gatherers to world domination. Considering the vastness of time that humans and life have been on Earth, could this have happened once before?

This question was put forth by Adam Frank and Gavin Schmidt in their paper titled The Silurian Hypothesis, where they tried to figure out what in the geologic record would be a sign of a previous industrial civilization. It brings up a lot of questions and makes you deal with the weight of deep time, as well as the fleeting nature of history.

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All Comments (21)
  • @danbojtor
    We'll probably be extinct in few million years, but Queen Elizabeth will be there to tell our stories.
  • @sverrg
    Humans: build all their first cities on fertile floodplains that get wiped out in flash floods every few decades Also humans: "Why were our ancestors obsessed with floods?!"
  • @primeral
    There is evidence that there was once an extremely advanced civilization eons before us. It's covered in a documentary called Battlestar Galactica.
  • @SaintPhoenixx
    I think the idea of a future human civilisation discovering Mount Rushmore and how they'd interpret it is a fascinating one. Makes you think about whether we've misinterpreted discoveries of ancient civilisations or even just historical artefacts. Who's to say we got it all right? We probably haven't, we can only assume. It's an interesting idea.
  • Joe: nothing today will be around in 10,000 years Twinkies: challenge accepted
  • This is my favorite definition: Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Margaret Mead’s summary: helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts.
  • Joe is way too addictive. I can’t watch in the mornings because I end up watching the whole day.
  • Could you do a video on the number of rivers around the world that have dried up? Even the Euphrates and the Mississippi Rivers have dried significantly. China has 66 majors rivers that have dried up. Shanghai, a massive city, is having power issues because of the lack of hydroelectric power levels dropping off. Kinda scary😬
  • @ravenlord4
    I'm on board with this, as there was plenty of time to start and end. Consider: T-Rex is closer to us in time than it was to Stegosaurus.
  • The age of elves has long since passed, only a few of us remain, and even then only in hidden places long forgotten. There is still Internet access though.
  • I try to watch your channel whenever I can. Really enjoy this one. Thank you for taking the time to explain!!
  • @unstanic
    There have been new studies recently that point towards a flood at around 12,000 BC, due to a meteorite hit in Greenland. I think they found the crate very recently. Maybe a good topic to touch on…
  • @TheUnatuber
    "Homo Erectus lasted nine times longer than us." Gotta admire men like that!
  • @carlrobison6065
    Me: "Yay! It's time for some Answers" Joe: "Every thing is doomed to fail" Me: "Yay! Answers!"
  • @coconutcore
    To anyone vaguely interested in anthropology, I HIGHLY recommend the book Sapiens. You’ll look more sceptically at the statement “and you were born here! Look how lucky you are!” To put it shortly, we weren’t made for the way we made ourselves live. Prehistoric humans didn’t quite live in the hellscape we imagine, even if it was far less comfortable. We strive for convenience and comfort, thinking it brings us happiness. Things are more complicated than that. In fact, is brings us problems. Some we know of, some we never even think about. We also can’t go back on any inventions with negative consequences, and we’re advancing faster than we or the earth can adapt to. Also, crops domesticated us more than we domesticated them, even if it was our idea (hard to explain, that one). So basically, those people who first started doing agriculture, they opened Pandora’s Box, and we can never go back. Again, I recommend the book, especially if you think I’m going insane.
  • Thank you, you have inspired a science curiosity in my I haven't felt since I was a child! Truly, thank you. I have officially started my blog. Here's to another year where we knew more than we did last year!
  • @ColdHawk
    “And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.” Gotta love Shelley
  • @AA_21861
    There's a probable reason why so many cultures have flood myths. Floods fall into a sort of Goldilocks zone when it comes to disasters. Unlike volcanoes and earthquakes, they are relatively common. They are more common than plagues (present situation notwithstanding) and they leave enough survivors to pass on tales to the next generation. Yet they cause enough hardship to leave significant trauma behind. Unlike fires, they cannot be fought or controlled too easily. To ancient people, floods must have been the most terrifying common disaster they'd encounter in their lifetimes. Let's not forget that their cosmologies were different from ours -- deep waters like seas were usually the limits of their world and smacked strongly of the unknown ("Here be monsters"). Enough people would have been familiar with floods for cultures to frame myths and stories around them. Not very different from how we have so many stories of nuclear armageddon in the 60s and 70s when the cold war was at its height and nuclear arms race rampant. For many cultures, floods must have been like their ultimate armageddon.
  • @visassess8607
    I'd like to see archaeological evidence from places currently underwater.
  • @wasteland70
    I've been watching your videos for the last two days. I just subscribed. So much interesting material. Thanks.