Bessel van der Kolk — How Trauma Lodges in the Body, Revisited

Published 2023-08-25
We are living collectively through one vast, overwhelming experience after the other, and trauma therapist Bessel van der Kolk's book The Body Keeps the Score has become one of the most widely read books in the world. In this beloved episode, Krista draws out his very practical knowledge — a distinctively illuminating perspective towards meeting what is happening in our world and inside each of us.

Bessel van der Kolk is a psychiatrist, trauma researcher, and educator based in Brookline, Massachusetts, and a professor of psychiatry at Boston University Medical School. His books include Traumatic Stress: The Effects of Overwhelming Experience on the Mind, Body, and Society and The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma.

This episode last aired on November 11, 2021.

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All Comments (16)
  • @robynhope219
    Bessel says in his book that people with poorly modulated nervous systems are easily thrown off balance, both mentally and physically. He is describing me here...been like that most of my life when everything was a calamity. I have calmed down, and think it’s because I lack the energy to overreact. I am very pleased with the “Body” book. It has many answers to my questions.
  • @robynhope219
    I did primal therapy in the 70s. Dr Arthur Janov spoke about the body storing trauma in cells and tissues in his ground breaking book The Primal Scream...does anybody remember?
  • @robynhope219
    Yep, trauma lodges in the body...it broke my brain😢
  • @Akon848484
    In my top 5 books of all time. So precious
  • @cstubb7378
    Dancing helps release stored memories; different cultures celebrate it differently
  • @sheri023
    When you are hurt, it feels like you are a victim and vulnerable if someone hurts you intentionally and you cannot fight back because they are too powerful. It can make you aggressive and angry and want to hurt someone else. Projection is a vague term, the feeling is a need not to feel helpless and to inflict your anger on a target to make them suffer and feel helpless and to make you powerful. When you are safe and strong enough, you can always cry into your feeling of helplessness and anger and it will go away. And you won't need to "project" anymore. If you strike a dog enough it will become aggressive. We are just hurt animals.
  • @user-kz6ss1py8l
    Believe me all I wish is to get rid of the trauma what noone can think, believe or imagine how it can lead your life probably until is finished. You may feel better one day, but just one weeks ago my left side was in a state I couldn't feel it, I could badly hear, listening later a podcast that all this can come from trauma. Thinking back how happy I was before, friendly, etc... and how my mind has shaped through the experience brutality , the theory helps you to understand, but at the end you stay stucked where you are. Thank you, now Iam laughing, my mind is full of this sometimes I think shit, you cannot take it serious why it is still there. It drives you nut.
  • @robynhope219
    O, u better believe it. I have HPA axis dysfunction due to severe childhood abuse. I am old now, but the body never forgets.
  • @ginablonde7051
    I have a question regarding the broca areal shutting down when stressed massively. Is it correct that broca is responsible for grammar of language? If so, one loses the ability to construct kind of complex sentences and the person is just able to curse in using swearwords. The "cursing circuits" are the same for warning members of the group when predators arrive in ancient times when living apelike in trees and on the veld.Though in trauma one loses the capacity to build a story about what happened. I think one loses the capacity to rationalize doesn't quite hit the nail on its head. When the ancient alerting brain circuits take over the more sophisticated evolutionary newer circuits aren't activated. I'm not sure about the body opening up the ability to get access to what happened in so far, that it will be possible to create a story matching the traumatic experience. What's left is to use fantasy to fill the gaps. What you think about this? I mean there is a lot of implications not only for the healing method/process, but also for the credibility of trauma victims in trials of justice.
  • @tigertruth543
    I have kind of arrived at the same kind of idea but through my own unspoken trauma and stagnation, started realizing that I am surrounded by ppl who viscerally hate me, cant cope alone, fled the area asap. Gave myself a new guide, move house every four or five years. If you dont have the calibration of what to put up with in a social housing estate, low level violence, i dont have any body standing up for me. I lose a lot not having an advocate. Its ungracious to be beaten up, physically and psychically, and have to tell it yourself. No justice. Bullys win, it goes all their way. Bottom line is. ' you know so much, and your so stupid, at the same time ' i am a paradox, but worse I m now a 2D pp. I did not know i was a political football for that collective satanic cult. Prayer was broke long ago. Brain deterioration because of trauma and internet techknow give those bullys advantage.
  • @robynhope219
    Oh, for sure, trauma has a memory. Arthur Janov said that in Primal Scream...so, nothing new.
  • It's not specifically important to me that this is a book on trauma, because the things he says are known instinctively to every living being. Rather, I experience it as a book on how the medical system destroyed the US and by relation, the world, when it had an opportunity and a sacred responsibility to save us.
  • What was the point being made there about how people say things like: "Youre not a bad person. Its not your fault." Because I have gotten that kind of thing a few times and its just like... "Okay?"...