How Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Ruined The ArkhamVerse

The thing I found most bizarre with Suicide Squad being set in the Arkhamverse is that Gotham Knights wasn't when its basic story seems so much better suited to it. Joker dead, Batman dead/gone, sidekicks taking up the slack (with redeemed Jason Todd), the League of Shadows tearing itself apart after the death of Ra's etc

It’s strange to go with a female Mr Freeze when There’s a female ice powered Villain in Killer Frost who’s been on the Squad in other works more then a few times

Honestly the most baffling thing about the upcoming Lady Freeze is that if you want a woman with ice powers to be one of your squad members you've got Killer Frost right there and she's even been a Suicide Squad member previously

In my opinion ivy wasn’t a bad retcon since it’s kind of hinted at in knight if you go back to her grave, there’s a plant growing. But between ivy, deadshot’s raceswap, and elseworld joker, why even call this an Arkham game other than for money. You can tell that the framework for this wasn’t even a superhero game, so just don’t connect it to Arkham, you can keep the Arkham-type part of the Batman boss fight, but do away with the fear toxin part and do something else Edit: I completely forgot the fact that king shark was also canonically dead in the arkhamverse

Speaking as a die-hard Rocksteady fan (I adore Arkham Knight in spite of its flaws) and as someone who absolutely adored and treasured the Batman Arkham series, this game truly broke my heart. Despite it being an online live service title, I hoped that they would still find someway of surprising me and recaptured the spirit and essence of the Arkham games, and they just didn't. Maybe the Batman Arkham games are so damn good, not even the studio that made them know how to do it again.

Brainiac is a Superman villain. This takes place in Superman’s city. The story happens because Superman is bamboozled by brainiac. Having to fight his friends without killing them and then save his friends is a perfect challenge for him. This story should’ve been a Superman story

There's actually a really good story in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon (I think the episode is just called "Task Force X") where the Suicide Squad robs the Watchtower, but it's good because they don't fight the Justice League, or at least the fighting that happens is minimal. The Squad knows that they'd be outmatched against any of the original seven except Batman.

Clearly the lack of Slipknot (the man who can climb anything) is why the DC franchise is failing.

Would have been great to see this Lex Luthor as the main villian in a Superman game. Corey Burton, even though he is more known for playing Brainiac and Hugo Strange, I thought he fit Lex Luthor quite well.

I cannot stop devouring these videos thrashing this game around like Hulk v Loki. Hate-watching SSKTJL videos has given me more joy recently than most content on YouTube. A little Schadenfreude never hurt anyone, especially at the hands of greedy, scummy, low-life Warner Bro's executives.

The ex lovers line is hilarious. 😂16:45

You got me on the third Slipknot mention, honestly made me chuckle, well played sir.

You know what, I'm not so sure permadeath is necessarily hostile to live service. Every new chapter introduces a new character at the beginning and a new reward like an upgrade that radically changes the way you play at the end, at the risk of losing team members to successfully complete that mission. It would be crucial that they're all accessible from the beginning of the game in case you're on a save file where your team was wiped when it comes out, which could get a little bloated the same way Breakpoint's quest hub does, but Watch_Dogs legion made it work, admittedly with optional permadeath. Not sure about the continuity of other players joining, they might have to pick from one of your team members, which means you'd better trust they know what they're doing as so to not get them killed

At First I was skeptical that the Justice League would be killed by the Suicide Squad but I thought WB mislead us and that they would Unbrainwashed later, but then when they Announced that this will be connected to the Arkham Series I was one of the few people who saw the Red Flags, then Kevin Conroy passed away and this would have been one of the Last Roles( with Crisis Part 3 seemingly being his Final Role), and don’t get me started on the multiple Delays for 3 Goddamn Years, the Shooting Mechanic, and the Live Server B$, I knew that this would be not just a Bad Game, but a Insult to DC and Arkham Fans that would have loved to see Rocksteady make either a Superman, Batman Beyond, or Justice League Game but now it’s clear that the Original People behind the Arkham Games have left and are given the Keys to New People that don’t understand what they’re doing that would lead this Once Great Company into Bankruptcy in the Most Distasteful and Distasteful Way Possible, Nobody in their Right Minds would want a Game that you killed off Some of your Favorite Heroes in Cold Blood, the Live Server Shooter Angle is a Terrible Game for a DC Game, the Only Good Character is King Shark, I like Deadshot but his Anger with Green Lantern is Doom, this is the Wrost Harley Quinn played by Tara Strong I didn’t like, Captain Boomerang is the Worst Character in the Game, Lex is more Enjoyable than Waller, the Graphics are a Major Downgrade to the Arkham Games especially when Knight was pure Perfection even if the Game is Overrated, the Side Characters are Boring, and is just Depressing and Not in a Good or Enjoyable Way when you Play or Watch, all I can Say is that MK1 and Spider-Man 2 are far better than this Abomination that I wish was Cancelled completely.

What's interesting is that a Suicide Squad game set during another Arkham Game could have been fun. Imagine while Arkham City is going on, Deathstroke is sent in leading a Suicide Squad team into it for some reason, like they need to get an analysist out or something. This can lead to a fun bit where they try and avoid Batman, which could be fun, and be a tactical game as you stumble across something bigger, like Vandall Savage helped Ras and Hugo set the city up, they need to track him down to a bunch of locations and do some fun missions, where characters could die, and stay dead. Really go to the lengths of using the team in a tactical way, a strategy game with consequences. Maybe, and hear me out, we have about twenty playable characters, each with powers and skills (from the OG game, Deathstroke, Calender Man maybe, Great White Shark, Prometheus and a bunch of jobbers). You select 6 people, and send them in, either a bunch of you playing as them, or you play as "Team Leader" and order them around. That could be incredible. When a person dies, they stay dead and you either replace him the next level or pick a whole new team. This allows replayability, and some alternate ways you could play with unique interactions as this goes. Through in another 5 DLC characters, and you're good.

Probably gonna be the best video on this game cuz Ik your criticisms are always good. If it was set in any other universe, most ppl would've been intrigued.

“Herd Mentality”, the last resort cope for when something is legitimately bad. Even though there’s merits in that argument, that’s basically just a way to wedge the foot of the other camp’s “defense” into an otherwise ironclad position to have 🤷🏽‍♂️ When it’s POPULAR TO HATE SOMETHING when that something IS INARGUABLY BAD ON MULTIPLE LEVELS (writing, story, gameplay loop/lack of REAL variety outside of costumes and weapon + weapon skins, & an overwhelming amount of politicization w/ messaging pretty hostile to a vast majority of players THAT ISN’T SUBTLE)…it stop being “herd mentality” and starts being Objective Reality. Why did developers and publishers decide to make releasing bad products that were meant to release unfinished then made the post-hoc argument for “finishing them over years” a reality?

Even though I don’t care which member is a survivor to brainiac normally, it makes more sense to be Batman in this game since they tied it into the Arkhamverse. We had years with the character and he could be our connection to this new justice league. Plus him dying to Superman would actually be emotional to the player since we know him (unlike Wonder Woman) and he’d be going out in a blaze of glory instead of like a chump. It’s clear the reason they had him be mind controlled is so it’d be easier for them to retcon his death since there’s already hints that the brainiac league wasn’t the real league

Arkham Origins despite being by WB was also great. Showing other dev team and cast could make a great installment.

I watched Gotham Paladin's video on tbe Deadshot retcon and apparently the game not only says the Deadshot we know is an imposter, but black Deadshot asks other world Lex if the Deadshot we know is from a different multiverse (Lex saying he didn't have anything to do with it), which is exactly what you asked for, but i still find it weird that white Deadshot has been running for 2 whole games with being completely fine he's in a different world or whatever the implications are.