Exercise and cancer: lessons from NASA research | Dr. Jessica Scott

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Published 2024-07-04
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What do astronauts and cancer patients have in common?

Jonathan explores this fascinating connection with Dr. Jessica Scott, learning how six decades of NASA research is being used to help the recovery of cancer survivors. New research challenges the traditional notion that you should rest during cancer treatment. Instead, Jessica’s studies into exercise could hold the key to a long and healthy life post-diagnosis.

Dr Jessica Scott started her career at NASA where she spent 7 years designing exercise programs for astronauts in outer space. Now, as the principal investigator at the world-leading Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, she is using her unique skillset in the fight against cancer.

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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction
01:25 Quickfire questions
02:32 Health challenges for astronauts
08:03 Impact of exercise on astronauts
11:43 NASA’s exercise program
15:37 Transition to cancer research
16:48 Exercise and cancer treatment
18:21 Side effects of cancer treatments
26:20 Studies on the benefit of exercising alongside cancer treatment
29:33 Tailoring exercise to the individual
31:14 Global perspectives on exercising alongside cancer treatment
33:00 Understanding different types of exercise
36:40 Implementing NASA's non-linear exercise training techniques
44:18 The next steps for Jessica’s research
45:59 Episode summary

Studies related to today’s episode:
Cancer Survivorship Statistics from The National Cancer Institute cancercontrol.cancer.gov/ocs/statistics#stats

Multisystem Toxicity in Cancer: Lessons from NASA’s Countermeasures Program from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7380275/

A randomised trial comparing the effects of moderate versus moderate to high-intensity aerobic training in women with operable breast cancer from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2965727/

Effects of exercise countermeasures on multisystem function in long duration spaceflight astronauts from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9898566/

Cardiovascular Disease Risk Among Cancer Survivors: The Atherosclerosis Risk In Communities (ARIC) Study from The National Library of Medicine pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35772913/

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All Comments (21)
  • Confession, I haven't watched all of the video however I want to make one comment. I had chemo for high grade lymphoma at age 73 (currently 76) and the side effects were so profound I wouldn't have really been able to do much if any physical exercise. Sometimes walking to the bathroom was an adventure as I was so weak and dizzy that near the end of chemo I had to hold on to things to make my way anywhere in the house. A 150 step day was a big day. Post chemo I have been doing a great deal of walking, including one wretched hill I use to increase cardio. I do this daily and average around 12,000 steps. I do get a cardio workout from walking up the wretched hill, I am overweight. And it took me two years to work up to 12,000 steps. My first foray outside was a drunken staggering walk that was in total 3 short blocks. I had to stop 5 times I was in so much pain, mostly from unused back muscles while I experienced chemo and initial early recovery. Walking a straight line was not possible.
  • @zakkyang6476
    Stage 4 colon cancer here, actively workout for both cardio and strength training every day, vo2max increased from below 30 to 48 at the age of 38. Latest tumor marker is within normal range and all tumor sizes shrink more than half. Chemo has less side effects on me.
  • @NormandHowison
    I can definitely agree with this video . When I was treated for leukaemia in 1996/1997 I had a portable rowing machine next to my hospital bed and was rowing every day even when I was on a drip. The only time I could not physically exercise was during my bone marrow transplants. After treatment I restarted exercising as soon as I could exercise again. It hasn’t been easy and it took me a lot of determination to do it. In October 2020 I was diagnosed with incurable bladder cancer. I was given about 2 years to live. I had chemotherapy, radiotherapy, immunotherapy and currently on a trial drug. I never stops exercising and still feel well enough to lead a normal life. For me exercising has always been part of my life since my teenager years. Another benefit of exercising is it help mentally to cope with having cancer.
  • I can vouch for walking . It helped me leave thoughts of cancer at home. Afternoon walks with my Collie/Shepherd Buddy, distracted me from thinking about the pain in my feet, and tingling hands. Herding and keeping me on our gradually expanding course, along tree-lined urban streets, down winding paths, until gradually, I was strong enough to take the ravine steps all in one go, before resting, taking in the river view. Following my instincts, and my dear Buddy, meant never walking alone, twenty-six years ago.
  • @chs3538
    Honestly I am currently right now that 60 yr old woman with breast cancer. I absolutely agree. I’ve already purchased a step and doing some resistance training coupled with yoga and Pilates. Thanks for this podcast. You have reinforced what I’ve been advised 🙏
  • @Liyaxs
    this is soo important. they keep patients in beds all day smdh these hospitals make you sicker with “standard of care” until they catch on im staying away
  • @beretaspaas8161
    Thank you for a very interesting dialogue. Am happy to hear the importance of excercise. Having a bowel cancer op this morning, and will get walking later today.
  • @ButterflyJak
    I’m currently coming to the end of 6 months of chemo and I’ve continued to run or walk when possible, I’m sure this has made a huge difference to how I’ve gotten through it.
  • @nasseernaji3750
    Thank you Zoe’s team, I wish you do more coverage for blood cancer survivors , best diet, exercise…..again, good job.
  • @lynneward8845
    This is such an important topic, I love that you are reporting this as part of Zoe's concern for overall health, and not just those issues directly related to a Zoe product. As a cancer survivor who unerwent radiation treatment, I am always interested in what I can do to manage possible long term effects. I have exercised regularly for years and the studies you all discussed related to astronauts is fascinating, the link to all of us regular humans is fascinating as well. My biggest take away was the importance of exercise variation and I look forward to hearing the results of the ongoing research.
  • There's definitely some people you should try and get on your program. Dr Michael Greger and Dr Brooke Goldner. These people have studied nutrition to a "T" and have very valuable information to share.
  • I had stage 3 breast cancer 11 years ago then stage 4 metastatic breast cancer 6 years ago. I live well I manage my side effects as well as I can I do know without the exercise i do I would be a LOT WORSE. It helps me daily Its not about how long I live Its about how I feel everyday I am here. I walk most days from 30-60 mins. I go to the gym for a varied workout 2-3 times a week I swim in summer
  • @eman40y
    I agree with the benefits of Exercise. I was very active before I got diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma and I think that helps me recover better and faster. I did my stem cells transplant after 6 months and that was very hard on my body but I tried to go back to walking even during my 1 month stay at the hospital. I started with a 5 m walk in the hospital and I end up in less than a year to more than 5 km a day. All my doctors were surprised of my good health during these years. Now, I walk at least 3 km a day and in some good days 10 km. I go to the gym almost daily now and that helps a lot in keeping my health at a good level for my age and treatment. Patient with MM need a daily strong meds that have many side effects so with exercise I was able to ease them and have an almost normal life. I hope this helps some of you out there. Keep trying and don’t give up.
  • Thank you for this. there is so much to applaud. First off: the massive benefits, to all humans, of NASA getting to the Moon is beyond measure, and if you deny the achievement then you have a massive health problem. Second: past generations were used to fighting for their lives (quite literally for my parents, who both survived extreme violence during WWII). In the bad old days, when going to the doctor cost a week's wage, being a stubbon b*gger was what kept many people alive. It has long been known that recovery from a stroke depends on determination; and it hearing Jessica Scott give proof that being a right stubborn b*gger is still the key to living longer.  On top of that more people will do a difficult thing, like exercise when feeling bad, if there's a goal reward. There is no greater reward than living.