'REACTS' Massive 4x4 Rollover! // How it went wrong.

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Published 2023-07-22
Why did this Range Rover roll over? And in such a massive way? I unpack some of my observations and thoughts on what went wrong and why? This is about us all learning so go easy on the people involved in this horrible event! We all have things go wrong at times so there's no need to be mean.
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All Comments (21)
  • @MadMatt4WD
    I’m passionate about helping the 4wd community and I'm developing an online course so i can help as many people as I can to get out there and wheel well on their 4x4 adventures. To register your interest and for free and exclusive training videos visit madmatt4wd.com.au/register. Here is my REACTS videos playlist - its purpose is for us all learning from other people's 4x4 drives. - youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxCUUqtm329plBAWaZBTGQo…
  • @nilz6432
    Maybe the safest option would have been to attach the winch when he stalled the car i think? Mate with the Camera could have unspooled it and attached it to something, even without a tree protector it would have saved the car and given time to restart and reposition the vehicle?.
  • @rossco3775tv
    This was on Deep Creek no4 in Aberfeldy Vic, very steep track and fairly rough. . Without lockers ( seemed he was unlocked front at least) only chance to drive its with some momentum, but yes finding that balance is the tricky bit. Once he was crossed up and went up the bank it was all over, having wheels opposite lock in that hill he still be gone for sure. Easy to say at home but was very precarious once he stopped, first priority should have been handbrake then winch, hope everyone OK bloody scary vid this one. .
  • @nudibanches
    As mentioned these things happen very fast and he’d have huge adrenaline rush, as would everyone on that track , but in that situation I’d be thinking winch is the number one course of action. I know guys have winches unspooled ready for mud, but it might have also shaved off a few seconds in this scenario. But of course it’s easy to write this on the comfort of the couch.
  • The value of stall start knowledge and training is a lifesaver as is keeping the windows rolled up to prevent stray limbs being broken or injured by whipping branches. Being strapped in and everything secured. I really feel for him and hope he is okay. Great chanel, thanks Matt.
  • The Land Rover motto is: “As slow as possible. As fast as necessary.”
  • @hodzy4x4
    Also if you read the comments on the original video the uploader mentions snapped axle as he was ascending. The driver had injury on his back L2 vertibrae 3 months off work. Just search Deep Creek 4 rollover.
  • Easy to add commentary and what you have pointed out Matt, is what you have leant from years of practise. I hope the 4wd adventure drivers take note and tackle tracks their vehicle and driving skill / learned knowledge allows them to master. Obstacles/ tracks defeat us at times, knowing when to play safe and when to be gun ho comes with experience. We can all learn from this …….. around the camp fire while being ribbed by our mates for getting out the winch and playing safe🤗
  • @Philipk65
    Wow that was one terrifying rollover. I hope everyone in the vehicle were alright.
  • @roberthuntley4988
    I noted the Rangie had quite large wheels possibly 35" and likely a min. 50mm lift. Not sure whether air pressure had been reduced. These issues would have added to high centrre of gravity and possibly part of the problem.
  • @fastst1
    I sure hope he pulled his wing back in the window! Well, he got it to turn over! Sure had quite a yard sale! I'd love to explore some of those trails, but slowly
  • Ouch! I really hate seeing things like this happen. But I always learn something from your commentary and analysis. Thank you.
  • @dalemalone3851
    For reference Re brake booster and roll over. Yes the stored vacuum can assist for a certain amount of cycles, however once the booster is exhausted - manual pedal effort of 60-80KG will generally apply enough force to control braking system. It requires more detailed and sensitive application - but can and will still work.
  • Yes, those Range Rovers have a servo, but it's not the most powerful and you should still be able to hold it on the hill without one. That was a deliberate design decision by Land Rover. I will add that those Range Rovers the handbrake is on the back of the transfer box, and whilst it's theoretically effective on all four wheels, that's only if the centre differential is locked and the wheels are of course on the ground. Being a nerd here, that Range Rover Classic being a later model has a viscous coupling in the transfer box that cannot be locked manually. Therefore, his handbrake would have been useless as his front wheel was off the ground. My second point is that most of those are automatics, and whilst it can be locked in first gear, it's not particularly low and is very similar to second gear in a manual Range Rover. Therefore, it's entirely possible he was in first gear, but even so he had excessive momentum as could clearly be seen. Manual vehicles have a ridiculously low first gear low ratio, something like a 2.7:1 reduction from high to low from the factory (assuming standard transfer ratios of 1.222:1 high, 3.321:1 low). This, however, could be saved the moment he stalled the vehicle (it does happen with automatics, done it myself). Provided he could hold the vehicle on the foot brake, someone could have attached his winch to a suitable anchor point to secure the vehicle until a plan could be made.
  • @bquade70
    Matt, thanks for keeping your videos coming! Love em! Lake Havasu 🌞 Az USA
  • I was screaming WINCH! Before I tackle hard things I unspool my winch and hang it on my bar and then pre set the winch controller etc. with it ready to come in. Been in similar situation, winch saved me. It gave me enough to bring the front of the air, get everything resettled and reset the angle on the hill. I saw an arm out the window of passenger before roll over hope all are ok.
  • @hodzy4x4
    This video has circulated the web for years now. From memory it was Deep creek 4 track. One of the steepest tracks around Walhalla. (it may have been closed for a while now, i think). Notice the passengers arm on the outside before and during first few pucker moments. Minced left arm possibility. Also debris just shows what happends when vehicle tumbles at those speeds. Wouldve been like a washing machine with all that stuff inside flying around. If the rollover didnt hurt them , heavy stuff flying around inside , could've easily killed them. Store everyrhing behind cargo barriers folks.
  • @alanhow3575
    The BEST thing to do is take your time to access the situation and consider your options, even if it was to take 1/2 hr!
  • @PseudoEmpathy
    My suggestion in this situation! The vehicle is parked, its fine! Put it in P, handbrake on, carefully exit the vehicle. Not tie it off to something sturdy, once it's not going anywhere, have a look around and plan what to do next, probably includes using the winch to prevent it from running away, and maybe tying it laterally to something to stop it from rolling until it as straight again.
  • That's got to be a really steep hill. It looks steep on camera and cameras usually don't do justice to depict steepness. So, this has really to be much steeper than looks on video.