MIL vs MOA | 9-Hole Reviews

This is the best video I've seen on the "MOA vs MIL" subject and... my head is still spinning 😂 My long distance .22LR plinking system is this: make a wildly inaccurate guess about the target's range, shoot a few practice shots to build confidence, then miss my most careful shot by several feet. It's the same system I use for putting.

What's cool about mils is 1 mil = 1 inch at 1000 inches, 1 meter at 1000 meters, 1 foot at 1000 feet, 1 yard at 1000 yards, 1 stick at 1000 sticks. Super easy to understand

You should have mention MOA to Inches at 100 yards vs MRAD to CM at 100 Meters. Once you start using meters for distance, then MRAD really shines.

8:50 that's even something i was taught as a conscript with the binoculars our army fields. The binos have a mil scale in them, and so when you are observing something (a vehicle for example) and you roughly know the horizontal dimension, you can do the math for the distance quick to pass on the information. Or when there's no elevation distance you could also use the vertical measurement. (This was at the turn of the century, laser rangefinders weren't what a normal infanterist being on a short recon/observation trip was equipped with. And we use metric units anyway.)

i’ve watched a dozen videos trying to decide if i want moa or mil. i kept thinking mil but i was stuck on the inches to moa conversion ease. you really cleared that up for me. thanks!

Very, very helpful primer on the topic, thank you!

Excellent video. I would like to see a part 2 with shooters employing both systems.

1 mil = 10cm at 100m. Work with the world accepted standards is easier. I imagine there is no issue multiplying 10s. It's very similar to your 1 time table with a 0 on the end. Also for artillery... A mil is a meter at a range of one thousand meters. I believe the reference for "1 click" is 1 mil (so shift 5 mils left is 5m at 1000m (1km)) - simple is good.

Thank you professor!

1 MIL = 1/1000 of distance. If your target is 200 elbows (or whatever bodypart measurement you prefer) away 1 mil is 0.2 elbows of dispertion.

Exactly like you said, MOA is easier for me to quickly understand what I'm doing. So that's primarily what I use

Josh, how about a "lecture" on the NATO type reticle and how to use this system.

Excellent video for those who don't understand that both MOA and Mils are simply a measurement of angles. The video is spot on that thinking in moa or mils is the key when ranging. Though there are some inaccuracies in the video. Most prominently several manufactures offer turrets with 0.05 mill clicks (video said the smallest was 0.1 mil). Similarly, but not an inaccurate statement, scopes are available with 1/8 moa turrets. Also nothing inaccurate was said, but the video should have pointed out that mils are spot on, the rule of thumb that persuades most in the USA to use moa is close but not accurate (because 1 moa does not equal 1" at 100 yards, but is close enough for most hunting distances). Personally I use both and don't have issue switching between the systems. I simply pick the scope that has the best reticle and turrets that fit my needs. I use mil based scopes on rifles that are used where ranging is required and 1/8 moa turrets with fine crosshair center dot reticles for shooting at know distance targets. Because the 1/8 moa turrets allows hitting the center of targets at 50 and 100 yard with my 22lr while a 0.1mil turret does not and I couldn't find a reticle I liked with 0.05 mil turrets.

As someone who uses inches regularly, I find moa is more beneficial for holding corrections. I can guesstimate pretty easily a miss and hold on the reticle easier. Now you can do the same for mil, and I do believe it is more widely used and superior but I've only used CM (correct measurement) for something else. 😂😂😂

2:38 growing up using MOA outisde of NA makes it hard to work everything out since everything I've ever done has been working in MOA inches and feet per second despite never using that in day to day things.

That was fun. Can we factor polynomials?

I am looking at purchasing a sfp 1-6x24 lpvo. can i use the 50/200 zero on this type of scope?

It occurs to me that the advantage you say MILs has with simpler numbers to remember could be magnified if you are frequently shooting different calibers. However there is one potential advantage to MOA you didn't mention. Red dots and other short range optics as well as pistol optics are almost exclusively set up with an MOA basis instead of MILs. If you are trying to test how far you can effectively use those being able to think in MOA maximizes your use of those otherwise limited reticles.

Does the 1.047 of actual moa measurement make any difference at extended range or can you still just confidently say 10" at a 1000

Bring back Larry and his God-level gunsmith videos. 😢