The Fate of Modern Wonka

hey I forgot to mention Zoe Bee also did a great wonka video and you should watch it https://youtu.be/0jbGyLayKjE and yes of course if they do adult wonka again the correct choice is jeremy strong edit: because people took the bit too literally, I actually barely moderate this comments section, so have fun you animals please help me fund my chocolate factory: 💰 PATREON @ www.patreon.com/jacksaint 🔴 YOUTUBE @ youtube.com/channel/UCdQKvqmHKe_8fv4Rwe7ag9Q/join 👛 TIPS @ ko-fi.com/lackingsaint Second Channel: youtube.com/@officalwordfromjack Bluesky 🦋 lackingsaint.bsky.social/ Instagram 📷 instagram.com/lackingsaint Twitch 🎮 www.twitch.tv/lacksaint Discord 🗣 discord.gg/pf5PXAzv8V TikTok 🎞 www.tiktok.com/@jacksaintreal

My main issue is that they are trying to turn Willy Wonka into a protagonist. He is more like a god than a man, a morally gray force of nature. He is inherently difficult to relate to

Willy wonka is meant to provoke your imagination. He’s never meant to have a backstory, he’s literally meant to be mysterious, kind of scary and very whimsical with no way of knowing where he got his ideas from. I don’t see the point of making a prequel apart from playing on nostalgia for money

Gene wilders Wonka wasn’t just whimsical and cartoony, he portrayed wonka as an unhinged psychopath and I love it.

Maybe a movie showing Wonka as kid friendly and idealistic would work... if it was a movie about the slow change of heart and mind into an ideal self interest, a rejection of the world that wasn't as fantastical as he wanted, and a withdrawal into his factory, where he could continue being the "dreamer of dreams."

"there is no getting around this: Mr Beast is zoomer Willy Wonka" is a sentence so fundamentally true it broke my brain

Honestly I find this teaser so repulsive precisely because of how sappy and whimsical it portrays Wonka himself. Just completely removes any interesting or compelling element of the character.

We may have not got the best choice for Wonka in Timothy but we dodged a HUGE bullet by not having Ezra Miller in the role.

Violet's mom: You turned my daughter into a blueberry! Now she'll never be a popular influencer! Wonka: Are you kidding? She'll go viral! Just Google "inflation" some time and you'll see. Cut to the Oompa Loompa song, filmed vertically like a Tik Tok with a bunch of blushing emojis and obnoxious sounds

I can't get over the fact that wonka discovered the oompa loompas in the trailer. In the books, he doesn't discover the oompa loompas until he starts the company, perfects his craft, and then shuts it down for years due to spies. If he has the oompa loompas since the start, it breaks the whole timeline of the books. Him shutting down the factory and firing everyone was the main reason why people were so excited, because nobody had seen inside the factory for years. Curiosity was powerful.

i just physically can't see willy wonka as a young man. he's an eccentric crazy old man and he's always been that way. he was never an infant he just appeared in the world one day as a full adult in a tailored purple suit.

I had a dream one night where I was going through the Wonka factory with the rotten kids, and Wonka got so fed up with how spoiled the kids were that he started actively endangering the kids. The Chocolate River Mermaids dragging a child into the river was a particularly chilling note ...

It just makes me appreciate the Gene's performance and even Johnny Depp's performance. Although the Depp movie was very modernized in its time, it was still entertaining, and Wonka was still funny af! Probably the best moments are when Wonka doesn't give a f*ck what happens to the kids since they're brats anyway. Its hilarious in the old movie, and its funny in Depp's too. The new Wonka makes him into a warm and kid-friendly guy which is NOT WONKA! Not in the book, OR any movies!

I firmly believe that Willy Wonka has to be a little insane and evil. He's the antagonist and arguably the villain for most of the story, and Charlie serves as kind of a Final Girl as Wonka slowly picks off the children while their parents watch in horror. Not that he needs to be completely irredeemable or totally evil, but just of enough to be kind of scary and unnerving whenever he's onscreen.

I really like the quote from a Tweet or something I read that said "None of the new Willy Wonka movies have understood that Gene Wilder's Wonka worked because you felt like there was a real chance he was gonna sit there and watch those kids die."" I have not stopped thinking of this since I first read it.

Dahl nails it in a way: You have to take Wonka sharper. Take him to the edge. I think he under estimated the extent to which, especially for a younger audience member, Wilder brought a serious and scary aspect to Wonka. The boat scene is genuinely terrifying. The way he hits the girls, and shows no human empathy, and has this tremendous capacity for rage with Charlie at the end is vital. Timmy boy is very, very, very unlikely to bring that. He can't crawl down someone's throat with the power of his temper and strangle their soul. Wilder could.

Willy Wonka is basically Jigsaw for kids. He just lets kids walk around in an unsafe candy factory, and risks their lives to teach them a lesson. And to top it all off, he has his slaves sing songs while the kids almost die

Every character doesn’t need a backstory, sometimes stories are vague for a reason.

Unsure if it was a joke or not, but I also thought Radcliff would better capture the Wonka energy.

I watched the movie.i really liked it. I always imagined that maybe wonka wasnt always so dark under his whimsy. I thought the younger wonka being so naiive and whimsy was believable. Was it groundbreaking? No. Was it enjoyable? Yes. I also didnt watch any of the promo