Spider-Man 3: Theatrical VS Editor's Cut - In-Depth Comparison and Discussion!

Published 2022-04-29
An extensive look at the two different versions of Sam Raimi's divisive 2007 trilogy capper. There's a lot to unpack here, but which cut is more deserving of your time, the Theatrical Cut from 2007, or the Editor's Cut from 2017?

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
02:33 - The Score
10:17 - The Structure
14:20 - Extensions, Alterations and Minor Stuff
30:35 - Final Thoughts

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All Comments (21)
  • Hope everyone enjoys the video! Any and all feedback is thoroughly appreciated, positive or negative. You can find links to my social media accounts in the description, as well as a link to my Spider-Man 2.1 video, in case anyone hasn’t seen that! Thanks a bunch, folks.
  • @zerus4435
    The editor's cut is the better version. I also hope one day Sony will release an extended cut of Spider-Man 3/Spider-Man 1 with all useful deleted scenes in it.
  • @Enigma-wn6et
    in the editor's cut of the pre Peter vs Harry scenes, peter is on the same sofa and ( I believe) on the same position he left Norman's body in, as if to mock Harry. Quite haunting
  • @chrismorrison5301
    When Peter opened the chest in the new scene it looked like it was breathing. Really creepy and definitely going for that horror vibe they where going for originally.
  • @curtthegamer934
    29:30 I think Harry knew as soon as he found out that his father was the Green Goblin at the end of the second film that Peter did not kill his father, and that even if he did it was in self-defense. Arguably, he probably even started to believe that Spider-Man couldn't have killed his father when he discovered that Spidey was his friend Peter. I think that his struggle was actually his shock at discovering that his father was a supervillain, and he couldn't accept that fact. So he took it out on Peter as a way to cope. At the end of the movie, he realizes that all he's done is make things even worse and that not only has he lost his father but he's lost his friend as well. He didn't need closure on his father. He already had it. That wasn't the point of his arc. His arc was reconciling with Peter.
  • @MrMgkman13
    Removing any Rosemary Harris Aunt May scene is a sin.
  • @TheAzulmagia
    One thing I think you might have forgotten regarding the Editor's Cut: even though Bernard doesn't outright spell out that Norman died by his own hand, Peter did tell Harry earlier in the film that Norman killed himself trying to kill him. At the time, Harry might not have believed him, but he most likely chose to believe those words in the final act when he goes to help Peter.
  • @SirusTheEyeless
    The editors cut comparison for Harry and peters fight is kinda funny. Going from a serious “What did you do to her?” To a laid back Peter complimenting Harry’s performance lol
  • Here's a list of SM3 deleted scenes that were discovered throughout the years. #ReleaseTheRaimiCut -Peter sees a woman rescue her son from rope-swinging like Spidey on a tree -John Jameson accidentally makes the alien Symbiote crash land into Earth -Extended Peter vs New Goblin -Extended Flint Marko police chase and alternate Sandman transformation -Extended Sandman awakening -Extended scene of Spidey saving Gwen -Peter goes to Oscorp and asks receptionist if Harry's around -Before Key to City ceremony begins, a boy tells his mom he saw Spidey after Peter shoots web line on his shoe -Extended Key to City ceremony -Spidey saves baby from Sandman's sandstorm and investigates the disturbance by examining the truck Sandman used to attack cops (YouTuber Daily Bugle Spidey makes cameo) -Extended Spidey vs Sandman armored car fight -Sandman visits Dr Phil Wallace (played by Adrian Lester) to help find a cure for his physically sick daughter -Extended Black Suit Spider-Man transformation -When Peter wakes up wearing the Black Suit upside down against a skyscraper window, he hallucinates himself in the reflection wearing his regular Spidey suit -Extended scene of Eddie taking pictures of Black Suit Spidey (with some slightly altered dialogue) -Extended Black Suit Spidey vs Sandman Subway train fight (with an alternate scene of Sandman being washed away into the sewers) -Peter hallucinates a monstrous figure (Venom) while looking at himself in his apartment mirror, and tries to get the suit off. -Alternate scene of Harry recovering from his amnesia and hearing his father's voice -Peter cautiously stares at the box where he locked the Black Suit, feeling uneasy, followed by an alternate scene of Peter apologizing to Ursula for being so aggressive in front of her and her dad while under the influence of the Symbiote. -Extended MJ breaks up with Peter scene -Extended scene of Peter ultimately deciding to wear the Black Suit again -After Eddie is fired, Hoffman uses the "chimes of serenity" on Jameson after he unintentionally makes him mad; only to break the chimes' effects by telling him the DB may be at risk of losing money from Eddie's fraudulent photos -Black Suit Spidey swings away from the Daily Bugle and goes on a violent vigilante spree, where he smashes a thug's head on a car windshield and pins down 2 thugs under their own motorcycles; It is after these set of events that Peter feels regret over his cruelty, and swings back home to lock the suit back in his box -Eddie visits Gwen to go on a date, only to be rejected after Gwen finds out he was fired from DB for framing Spidey -Extended Symbiote Peter vs Harry fight (with an alternate introduction) -Extended jazz club scene (with MJ's dialogue being slightly altered) -Extended church scene and alternate Venom transformation -Sandman turns into a sandcastle for his daughter, followed by an alternate scene of Venom asking for Sandman's help, threatening to kill his family if he doesn't comply -MJ visits Harry at his home and talks to Harry about forgiveness (replacing the scene where she sees Peter on the street outside her window), followed by the scene where she's kidnapped by Venom in the taxi -Alternate scene of Peter asking Harry to help him save MJ (but instead of wearing his costume, he's only wearing his civilian clothing), followed by a scene of Harry tearing up over a broken picture of him, Peter, and MJ -Dr. Wallace visits the Marko's to talk about Flint's whereabouts Gwen and her father head to the construction site after seeing Venom's real face in a news report. -Extended Spidey and New Goblin vs Venom and Sandman at construction site fight -Sandman's family and Dr Wallace stop Sandman from killing Peter -Alternate Eddie Brock death scene (the Symbiote feeds on Eddie's body after the process of being permanently bonded is complete and absorbs his soul to become one single entity. The Symbiote tries to bond with Peter again, only for him to yank down metal pipes that cause intense vibrations that kill Eddie and the Symbiote for good) -Alternate scene of Peter and MJ mourning Harry's death -Extended funeral scene -One final swing scene
  • Does anyone know the story about Sam Raimi's original plan for the climax? I read somewhere that after he was forced to add Venom and Eddie to the plot, he wanted Gwen to be the damsel-in-distress instead of MJ. Sam promised Kirsten Dunst that she wouldn't be the damsel for the third time straight, but, of course, Sony forced him to make MJ the helpless hostage again. Gwen being the hostage in the climax makes more sense in the long run. Looking at the few scenes of her and Eddie together, there's a sense of Eddie making up an imaginary relationship between them. The first thing he does after Spidey saves Gwen during the crane scene is ask him for a photo; his immediate concern for Gwen is almost like an afterthought. When Gwen later tells him they only "had a coffee," Eddie's facial expression darkens like someone hearing something they didn't want to hear, especially if they're a narcissist. It gives the hint that Eddie concocted his relationship with Gwen; he may have done it for status since she's the police captain's daughter. P.S. That scene seems cut short since it ends with Eddie's reaction and cuts to Mary Jane and Harry, so more Gwen and Eddie dialogue might've been there to flesh out their non-existent relationship. Then Gwen kisses Spider-Man in front of a crowd of people like it's nobody's business despite being in a "relationship"; someone with a huge ego like Eddie would have issues with that. There's even a deleted scene of Gwen dumping Eddie when he goes to her house after he gets fired. Venom kidnapping Mary Jane just because she's Peter's girlfriend is too contrived; him taking Gwen instead would be the more personal, egocentric move for Eddie. Gwen is Peter's classmate and Eddie's "girlfriend-in-title-only" before she breaks up with him and starts seeing Peter. Eddie has more reasons to go after Gwen than to take the easy route with Mary Jane. Then Peter would feel guilty for a classmate getting dragged into his Spider-Man business.
  • @ender7278
    I wish more films would get alternate cuts like this, recontextualizing the film with new footage and music.
  • @MrMgkman13
    I personally feel you need the scene of Peter trying to reach out to MJ because it shows that deep down he does care and has just lost his way.
  • @ericdxfan511
    Them removing the Aunt May scene at the end ruined the flow of the third act. It felt like they rushed to the ending. The Sand Castle scene was supposed to happen after Peter got rid of the symbiote and was supposed to be the way Sandman meets Venom. They cut that part from the Editor's Cut for obvious reasons.
  • @danserafina4061
    I saw this movie in theaters when I was 6. So I guess that’s why I loved the movie to this day, convoluted plot and goofiness included.
  • @philipcohen7192
    As far as the suit moving it’s so subtle. I thought my mind was playing tricks on me the first time I watched it.
  • If Sony were to do another new cut of Spider-Man 3, let this be the extended cut or a newer version of the movie. 1. Bring back all the deleted scenes that were in the editors cut 2. Use a mix of both Christopher Young and Danny Elfmans score that is best suited to the scene 3. Restore some of the missing scenes abandoned in the editors cut from the theatrical cut 4. Keep the arranged scenes from the editors cut as they flowed a bit better in terms of pacing compared to the theatrical cut 5. Even more scenes that didn’t make it to the final cut like the character Dr. Wallace talking to Sandman 6. More Venom Then, you got yourself the definitive version of Spider-Man 3 that Sam Raimi originally intended to show.
  • @DMTInfinity
    I saw Spiderman 2 and 3 in theaters and to this day those are still two of my top ten favorite Theater Experiences.
  • @Jakeyisdead
    What i love most about the editors cut is the rearrangement of Peter outting Eddie and his fight with Harry in the theatrical version he beats up Harry then outs Eddie and it feels like he went bad too fast then goes to petty office drama. With the editors cut it feels like a steady downwards progression from outting Eddie and almost killing Harry then ultimately hitting MJ which makes him see the errors of his way. Idk it just feels like a better progression into darkness for Pete to me
  • @angelux2793
    I want to see the uncut final battle with Peter pulling out Eddie but all he's able to pull out is his skeleton (with a "venomized" skull) because Venom had already absorbed him and was just using his skeleton as a framework to move around. It's theorized because of that, that any prior scenes of "Eddie" Venom talking/fighting with Spiderman was actually just Venom using Eddie's body as a puppet and that Eddie had already been gone mentally until he assimilated him. Apparently that was cut because testing audiences found it too disturbing.
  • One pattern I noticed is that the reshoots in the theatrical cut tend to have brighter lighting, like the Ursula scene and the Peter vs. Harry pre-fight talk. Also, Maguire and Franco seem less bulky in the theatrical version. I wonder if it was intentional or if the lighting crew had to make new setups without any available reference to how it was before.