DDR4 vs. DDR5, New Game Benchmark + Has 5800X3D Aged Worse Than 12900K?

The video is about 5800X3D aging. Why game benchmarks are using 7800X3D , I'm confused.

Context: DDR5 prices were sky high with the release of of the 12900K. That and the sky high prices of DDR5 boards too. Compared to DDR4 prices and the price of the 5800X3D at the time, it was truly good value for its performance.

These "experts" on X 😂

7800x3D at £314 in the UK, and can be cooled by a £30 air cooler IS the best bet for gaming. No arguing.

Steve, the "lines" separating the graphs per CPU tier makes it far better to handle then without. Same for those % numbers. Much much easier. Good idea 🍻

It's not 5800x3D aging worse than 12900K, it's DDR5 aging like a fine wine. More games are taking advantage of the high bandwidth.

The time I upgrade to DDR5, DDR6 will be the new trend so I'm gonna stay at DDR4 for now :hand-pink-waving:

Steve staring into my soul 👀

Would have been nice to see the 5800x3d in the final charts. I know you guys do not recommend AM4 but for anyone that wants a board with two 8 lane PCIE slots, the price of AM5 board is literally double so the 220 dollar increase in platform cost does make AM4 a consideration, particularly with the 5700x3d at just 200 dollars. I mean that's the CPU and board for the cost of just the AM5 board.

I've seen people suggest that the 3D vcache makes memory bandwidth less important to those parts. It might be interesting to test something like the 7800x3d with slower memory to see if it's less affected than expected.

5800X3D may not be as powerful now, but it will always remain in our hearts...

LOL My 5800X3D is still going strong. I've got it working with 32GB of DDR4 @3600 MHz CL14-16-16-36 and a 3090. There's no "degradation" to be seen.

Still rocking a 5800x3d on my day one purchase of a X370 board… madness that longevity.

My 5800X3D was on a flash sale. So it cost me 290 CAD. I replaced a 3600X. 12900k was never going to be able to compete on price with a drop in solution that good.

I'm glad you tested with DDR4-3600 instead of 4000. The former is more representative of what people actually use. Locked Alder Lake CPUs don't even have the option to use memory speeds much higher than 3200 in Gear 1 mode.

Damn some of these differences are mind blowing tbh I remember when DDR5 launched 4 years ago (Yes, it was 4 years ago now!) and in gaming benchmarks it was only like %2-5 faster than DDR4 at best if you were lucky (some games it was basically the same!) and now to see %20 and even %30 gains is crazy. I know DDR5 RAM has got a lot faster since it launched. I mean what was the best at launch 5600 at cl38 or something like that? I wonder how much of this improvement is just the DDR5 RAM being faster vs games actually using more memory bandwidth?

No clue about benchmarks but my 5800X3D with 3733mhz 32GB RAM and 7900 XT kick every game I throw at them in Linux and Windows.

The real value of the 5800x3d was (an sometimes stills is) the upgrade from older Ryzen CPUs. It really pushes your PC on a whole different level when you drop a 5800x3d in your 2700x system. For a relativ small amount of money you are able to breath enough CPU power to your system to last a fair bit longer.

Great information! As a long term viewer, I like this multi-pronged up format!! What is great about keeping the older CPUs / hardware in the testing is buying advice in the sense that it helps you compare your current / older system. Even a CPU or two from those series. Like I'm on 10th get and would love to know how it compares, although I'm sure if I spent enough time digging all the information is there in your archive of videos. Excellent content. I really appreciate all the hard work you both do!!!

Yes the 12900K + DDR5 combo today is faster in modern titles than the 5800x3D + DDR4 combo But you also have to remember that back when the 12900K was new, to get its full potential you needed a decent Z690 DDR5 MB as well as DDR5 DIMMs to go along with it. DDR5 back then was expensive The 5800x3D on the other hand ran perfectly fine on cheap potato B550 MBs and 3600Mhz XMP D4 was much lower in pricing than even cheap potato 4800Mhz JEDEC D5. And for the 12900K + DDR5 to beat the 5800x3D + DDR4 by a decent margin, it needed 6000Mhz and above D5 which was EXPENSIVE AF