Predestination: Do we have a choice? | Ep 132

Love the video. Just my 2 cents though. Foreknowledge and pre destiny are not the same thing. God can have all knowledge and all power and still have the restraint to allow us to make decisions. Allowing others to have a choice does not show that God lacks power. I believe that just shows His power.

The issue is repeatedly framed inaccurately by Allie. The issue is not whether "predestination" is biblical, but is it Calvinistic (as she believes it to be). In other words, it's not, "Does the Bible teach predestination?," but rather, "Is the Biblical teaching of predestination the same as what Calvinists believe it to be?" Of course the Bible teaches that God predestines certain things--the word is used, after all--but it never teaches that God unconditionally predestines certain individuals to faith and others to be left unchangeably to being lost. So, Allie just frames the questions at the beginning as a matters of "predestination," but does not make it clear that Calvinists understand "predestination" as something different than non-Calvinists.

“ The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. “ Peter

When it comes to predestination I have no problem saying I have no idea, we'll find out when we're dead. In the meantime it's best not to presume.

I believe God has a plan for everyone. It's up to the person to go with God's plan, or go against it. That's what free will is. Every time in my life that I'm doing what I believe God wants me to do the ride always seems smoother. Other times, when I'm away from God, life is much more difficult. I don't believe it's coincidence.

A Calvinist dies and goes to heaven. When he arrives, he sees two lines to get in. One's labelled "Predestination" and one is labelled "Free Will". So, he goes to the back of the Predestination line and waits his turn. When he gets to the front of the line, the angel asks, "Why did you get in this line?" to which he relies, "Well, I believe in predestination, so I chose to get in this line." The angel shakes his head and says, "No, in that case you need to be over in the free will line" - so off he goes and joins the free will line. When he gets to the front of the free will line the Angel asks him "why are you in the free will line?" and the Calvinist answers - "that guy over there told me to"

Great job Allie, truth speaks volumes.... I respect your audacity. So admirable

God, being outside time, knows the end of a thing before it begins. Predestination may not be that dissimilar from His ability to use someone's evil intentions to further a larger good result that is part of his plans. He can weave our simple actions that are locked in time into his timeless plans. I agree with Allie that it is not hard at all for me to believe God can see our hearts even before we are conceived and as he judges the intentions of our hearts , knows which of us will choose to love him even while we are flawed and then he works out plans in our favor. He doesn't need to violate our small freewill to also have chosen is before we existed because he knew everything about us before we existed. Free will and the sovereignty of ancient of days can coexist because He created ALL things, including free will.

I cannot believe this is 3 years old, I would've thought this to have just been posted recently since it is so incredible! How have I only come across it now? I will be sharing it with everyone as this is so far the best, quickest, and biblically accurate explanation of predestination. Others rely too much on their emotions than on the almighty One. My husband and I will continue to pray blessings and continued strength to you and your family, Allie, as God has great plans for you! Thank you for speaking out on truth, regardless of how unpopular it may be.

You are spot on. So glad to hear from folks who actually believe what the Bible says and is given the ability to understand it. It is God’s Word. God bless you and stay in your Bible fellow sister in Christ. I believe His Word no matter what it says and the Greek definition of Predestination supports your/our view on this topic. Thank you and God bless

What about John 3:16? For WHOSOEVER believes in Him?

About the sparrow ... there is God’s perfect will and His permissive will. Just something to learn about. Thank you for sharing.

The question of predestination isn't where God wants our focus. The idea that God only loves some of his creation is childish. We are all predestined for salvation. That is what Christ did. Only we can change that. God exists outside of time that is true. But we do not. Prayer works, we have work to do here and what we do matters. If I'm not mistaken it says that hell was not intended for any of us. Predestination is a theological distraction.

Well said sister!!!! We are not worthy and only Jesus grace

God is the author of all. We are like characters in the finest novel. Like characters in a story, we experience our life fully and our choices matter and have consequences. Thankfully we can rest in the truth that God is in control of how history and our lives play out. The rejection of predestination has profound implications in how our faith plays out. Scripture is foundational. There is so much peace that can be found in biblical truth of predestination.

Great explanation of an unpopular and difficult theological concept. Our Western culture rejects the idea of a king, who is in control of all things. It just blows our mind!

Allie this was absolutely amazing, kudos to being able to tackle all of this fairly in under half an hour lol thank God for what He's doing through you ✝️💪❤️

- "faith (comes by) hearing and [hearing by] the word of God" - is the rightly divided explanation as to this

I'm glad you are objective about this

Thank you for this. I needed more clarification