The Trump Campaign’s Theory of Victory
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Published 2024-07-18
Tim Alberta is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of “American Carnage: On the Front Lines of the Republican Civil War and the Rise of President Trump (www.harpercollins.com/products/american-carnage-ti…) .” He recently spent months profiling (www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump…) Trump’s campaign managers, Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita. In this conversation, Alberta offers an inside look at the Trump campaign and their theory of victory. We discuss how the campaign has tailored its messaging to capitalize on Joe Biden’s weaknesses; LaCivita’s and Wiles’s personal backgrounds and approaches to the campaign; what Trump’s vice-presidential pick, Senator J.D. Vance, signals about Trump’s vision for his presidency; and more.
Mentioned:
“Trump Is Planning for a Landslide Win (www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump…) ” by Tim Alberta
“How J.D. Vance Won Over Donald Trump (www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/politics/trump-vance…) ” by Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman
Book Recommendations:
Tired of Winning (www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/730629/tired-of-w…) by Jonathan Karl
Kingdom of Rage (www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/elizabeth-neumann…) by Elizabeth Neumann
Romney (www.simonandschuster.com/books/Romney/McKay-Coppin…) by McKay Coppins
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast (www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs (www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.…) .
This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
All Comments (21)
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In the words of Homer Simpson “you take forever to say nothing “
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still naval gazing with the rest of the democrats. 1 dimensional personality type. Sad.
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Can you guys stop talking about conservatives as if they are an uncontacted tribe. We are people just like you, we are your neighbors and family members and coworkers.
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This is why I drop the New York Times!!!
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Tds is real get help immediately
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I tried for ten minutes to listen and they say absolutely nothing. What a fuggin ego to talk to just hear yourself.
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Well duh—how is the “running against Joe Biden” any different from the, “running against Donald Trump”?…or, “running against Barack Obama”? Utterly ridiculous!!
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You need help bro
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Why am I getting NYT on my feed. Go away.
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In other words, not a threat to democracy.
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Is this a joke?
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You are so wrong! It’s called GRATITUDE I understand you probably don’t see that much
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Out of touch much
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Reliance on polls has made our political reporting lazy and focused solely on inside ball issues of personalities, who's winning, losing, inside, outside.... Like People magazine for political nerds. Where is the discussion of issues and contrasting views of things that matter?
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Nope. None of this.
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This is all depressing…..always so much hype around Trump and the takedown of our Democracy! You aren’t much different than the media. And truthfully, Ezra, I have always admired you and loved listening to you…… not so much today👎🏻
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I recall many on the Democrat side seriously thought of Obama as GOD .
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All the TRUMP CAMPAIGN has done is WAKE UP AMERICA.
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I didn't click here I'm already done with dealing with this guy.
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This guy takes so long to get to the point lol
