Stacking dimes Vs Stringers, which is stronger? (part 2)

I know it took a lot of work and planning to lay all this out in vid form for people. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. Everyone should always be learning.

World needs more Gregs. Sir your lectures have high value. Thank you

A weld is not to be seen and that’s without a grinder. And you’ve been a great help to this old welder after my stroke so thank you

I'm a novice welder. I have been watching videos on TIG welding stick welding and MIG welding for years. And you sir, are the only one that has EVER addressed the idea of thicker metal being easier to manipulate in terms of stacking dimes! Thank you!

Conclusion, save the pretty welds for true Tig welded aluminum bicycle frames. You don't want the A-arm of your truck falling off because someone was doing a Mig like Tig look a like weld. This is the most comprehensive weld video comparing these weld types that I have ever seen. I would like to see you do Tig with 1/4" plate and see how it compares strength wise. Great video!

Wowwwwwwww Greg no breakdown videos like this on on th internet THANK U we appreciate u …..Penetration is th Key to any weld not so much pretty looks ….on things that are not structural critical we can get away with pretty welds but wen it comes to th safety of people’s lives we gotta make sure that we follow th welding procedures to a T not worrying about looks rather focus on depth of Penetration THANK U an God Bless🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

Awesome teaching opportunity! You have verified what I suspected but never proved!

This video should be in every welding school and showed in every welding job out there, im a combo welder, i have over 35 yrs welding and fabricating with all types of materials and I've turned green in the face explaining the do's and don't and the whys about stacking dimes just because they look cool compared to stringers, a wise man told me when i was being self taught in the eary 80's "if you want to learn how to weld, worry about whats gonna hold before how its gonna look" you must be around my age, we are a dying breed, there's no point of arguing with this new generation welders, i can rest my case now, thanks, great video,

Dude's bringing the receipts!

I'm not a welder; I don't know enough to have an opinion about the "controversy". I can see the differences you describe in the welds and the argument that consistency matters most makes sense to me. I think it is frustrating when folks - in all kinds of arguments - say you're wrong, but have only anecdotal claims about why you are wrong. Give me your data. What did you test? What were your variables? What was your hypothesis before the test, what were the results, and what did you confirm or contradict? I appreciate the time and effort to demonstrate the methods, and that you reflect on what you learned because it wasn't what you expected. Not always easy putting something like this out and taking the shots when folks decide to make it personal, instead of a discussion. Good series, thanks!

I learned a lot here. I have flux cored for years with a transformer welder with two heat ranges - way too hot and way way way too hot. I have just started MIG welding and this is an excellent tutorial. Thank you.

I started this hobby to fix an outdoor barbecue canopy. The whole thing is made from thin steel tubing. Man I've got a lot to learn.. Thanks for your videos.

I enjoyed this video. I like to see comparative proof, as you demonstrated so well.   I am not a welder, but own an old tombstone that I play with. I retired from the carpenter's union a while back and wanted to learn another skill. I enrolled in a welding lab class at the local community college. I will not ever be a code or certified welder, but I will continue learning until I feel like I have a level of proficiency I can trust.   Thanks again for the intelligent discussion.

Thanks for all your hard work Greg You do all the leg work with the informative videos that you provide 👍👍😁

I have some welding experience and by no means am I an expert, more like a novice. If found your testing regiment very thorough and greatly appreciate all your efforts. Based on your results couple that with manufacture recommendations that have the capital to test and prove their settings is good enough for me. If someone still insists you and the manufactures are wrong really highlights their own stubbornness & arrogance which you can't fix. Sometimes we have to be able to admit we're wrong.

Greg, I am a toolmaker by trade, and a Manufacturing Engineer for the last 24 years in Aerospace and Shipbuilding. I can't weld for toffee as I have never done enough of any type so have no real experience. However, your videos are very well grounded with well thought out tests, using facts and data to back up the narrative. Facts and data beat opinions every time and is exactly how professional industry works (especially regulated ones). Keep doing what you are doing and just ignore the opinion jockeys, very useful reference for newbies like me, thanks. Jon🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

I worked at Terex where they built earth moving equipment repairing electrical equipment. Wire feed welders running 485 amps and beam welders running 1/2" wire @ 800 amps. All welds were x ray tested Orman fluxed, no one stacked dimes. The welders all wore leather everything and were soaking wet from sweat by 9AM , no fans welders worked very hard and did picture perfect welds. Stick welding I have done since 12 years old, never had a weld fail ! Or look picture perfect and that is what counts when repairing, not pictures.😊

Thanks for another fantastic "proof-is-in-the-pudding" video! Your testing is excellent! I am ready to revisit/learn more about dualshield- Thanks Greg!

Welding has as many variables as the mineral itself which pressure heat other minerals present and cooling of the earth when it was created. I am grateful to have found this video and I learned more than I'll retain . Thank you

I fully agree, I welded for 41 years and the biggest problem I ever had with people with a MIG is you can make a very good-looking weld that doesn't hold the to the application. You can do so, but you do frequently have to have a gap especially when you get to about 10 gauge or more. But you are correct you cannot do a stack of Dimes with a MIG because the metal is too liquid to hold the profile. I have however done a vertical down and I believe it was on quarter inch in a weld test in class that passed a Ben test. And the instructor was totally amazed and I would not tell him how I did it because I did not want anybody trying to replicate that on a piece of structural. I would do that, but I would not tell anybody how to do it. The problems that can be caused by an inadequate weld in that situation can kill people. As for motorsports, uniquely, the roll bars were originally designed in a metal that is intended to be welded with a torch and I have welded them with a torch. It's actually a naval standard so that they could weld on board the ship. It will be more than adequately strong for the task. When you start putting mounting plates and the light on, you do need to do some special procedures if you're going to be using a MIG and part of it is learning how to weld at an extremely hot with a wire speed that allows you to lay it in there the way it needs to go. It will work, but you cannot be interested in making a pretty weld, but a good weld doesn't actually look too bad. And sometimes like I have done actually appears to be a stack of Dimes on a one specialty job I did that the welds had to be very I appealing but they also had to hold and it was on a piece of 12 gauge brush stainless with 10 Gage supports on it and the stitches on the welds had to be in very specific play places and only a specific length, but they had to be adhered to the stainless steel stainless quite well. So I used 309 high school and I used a very hot setting with a slow wire where it would actually drip metal, one drop after the other inside the plasma cone, and I could constantly count the drips where that way I would have the requisite length of weld. They actually look like they had been machined onto the metal.