Audiences Hate Bad Writing, Not Strong Women

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Publicado 2023-07-15
Hollywood - and Disney in particular - have a recent trend of propping up female heroines who just aren't that interesting of characters. They have shallow character arcs, are largely interested in self-actualization, and often lack any likeable traits. There are, however, examples of strong female characters such as Vi and Rita Vertaski from within the last decade that run contrary to this trend, and their positive acceptance is proof positive that audiences do not dislike strong women - just bad writing.

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  • I think the irony of the "sexism" card is that they are ultimately defending writers not respecting women enough to put real effort into their characters and arcs
  • @PseudoNym13
    The worst part is when they get called out for bad writing they pull the sexism card to cope for their lack of skill
  • @DrShiba-jg1me
    "Ya'll hate on Rey just because she's a strong woman" Meanwhile Ahsoka, Leia and Padme are some of the most beloved and iconic characters in Star Wars history
  • @elunesky4051
    We have Ripley from Aliens franchise being this strong and powerful women. We don't complain about it. Why? Because the writing is so good
  • @nicholas_obert
    "Don't make a great female character, make a great character that happens to be female" -some wise person
  • @grahamthomas9319
    “Write characters to tell a story not prove a point” Great line!
  • A better comparison scene for the bullying is Harry Potter. His mistreatment at the hands of the Dursleys is explained very quickly – they value normalcy, which Harry is decidedly not. He is bullied by his relatives and, as a result of their deception, pretty much everyone around him considers him the problem and so they mistreat him too. Not only is the treatment given a reasoning, we later find out the reasoning is nuanced and find out even later just how much deeper it went than we were initially led to believe… to the point that there were scenes relating to the mistreatment that were actually impactful and surprising all the way until the final movie/book. It goes even further in that it was a narrow reflection of a broader issue in the world at large. On that broader scale it was a large factor in Grindelwald’s motives which ultimately led to WW2. What seemed like a simple thing was actually a major plot point… whereas RoP? “Please like our Mary Sue because she endured some inexplicable childish bullying”
  • @StAngerNo1
    The problem I have with a lot of these characters is, that they are just so unlikable. They are annyoing, arogant, narcistic, all traits that you rather see in villian - because they make a character unlikeable. The writers use the traits they see in "toxic masculinity", but somehow think that a strong character has to have them in order to be strong, thereby completely sabotaging their own agenda.
  • @SnowWhite87792
    As a woman, it doesn’t feel empowering or inspiring. It feels patronizing and pitying. They need to stop doing this
  • As a girl I have always thought that those movies failed because of sexism, not in the sense that audiences didn't like it, but in the sense of not creating new characters, just female versions, not creating complex characters, just make them perfect. It's like 'a woman has to be perfect' 'a woman is superficial ' 'a woman is not worth the effort of writing a good characters' and 'women are so dumb that this is all it takes to sell a movie'
  • @novahyper6731
    Edge of Tomorrow is one of my favorite movies of all time, but has gone very overlooked. Thanks for giving it and it’s amazing characters the love they deserve!
  • I like how the Entire Message of Mulan that men and women are different but still strong in different ways, BUT that when brought together and working with each other, relying on each others strengths thats when you can do anything.
  • @xygour1445
    People don’t hate strong and independent women they hate “I AM A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN”
  • @Anupamprime
    I like how no one hated Gamora... Despite she being the 2nd strongest Physically and strongest In Overall Combat.... Because she was written perfectly in the guardians of the galaxy franchise..
  • @zanderwoolley945
    Mulan vs Mulan is an amazing study in how to do a character right vs terribly. I'm kinda glad the live action exists purely for the clear juxtaposition.
  • @bleachsundae1368
    This video is such a breath of fresh air, it's a well-informed and good faith critique of a very real problem that exists in female character writing that doesn't just spiral into genuinely misogynistic ramblings like 90% of "anti-woke" clickbait youtubers. This is exactly the kind of content we need.
  • @Daggerjam
    As a child girl, one of the female character I liked the most was Elizabeth Swann from Pirates of the Caribbean. She went from an innocent girl afraid of pirates to one of the most badass pirates of the franchise. Shame to the writers for her character arc in Dead Men Tell no Tales. It felts like going backward.
  • @borgthepig
    Remember folks: the gender of the character does not matter, as long as it is good writing.
  • @growarmygtvo8463
    This is true for all characters no one wants a perfect flawless character.