Did the Fallout TV Show Just Ruin Fallout Lore?

I don't think the guys wearing the ranger armor were actual NCR rangers. They simply could've just scavenged the armor after the bomb fell.

It will be interesting to see McLean arrive in New Vegas to find the Courier rather than House.

Patrolling the comment section almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

So why's Shady Sands now in LA instead of Death Valley?

shady sands is between vaults 13 and 15 and as far as i know the fallout tv series takes place soley in the L.A boneyard we never see the hub or other cities that appear in fallout 1 and 2

Has anyone noticed half of new vegas is missing in the show? No sharecropper farms, no gun runners, no broken down highway. A lot and I mean a lot of the surrounding buildings and landmarks.

I picture Todd Howard with Amazon reading the changes and says "it just works"

My issue wheres the enclave , they had this whole facility lost a scientists and tech and didnt send out teams to come collect the doctor? Why is the enclave back? Why didnt the legion come back to take the area simce no NCR control in the region ?

Another weird thing is how they didn't mentioned the Boneyard despite being so close to Vault 33. You would think they would at least pass-through The Boneyard because the show takes place in LA. Not to mentiont to New Reno, The hub, Necropolis, etc

doesnt maximus straight up say “the bombs dropped 12 years ago” to lucy? lucy is confused at first bc obviously the great war was 200+ years ago, but then its revealed maximus was talkin about shady sands. that places the bombs falling ~2284, three years after new vegas

NCR has 700k people in it And I am supposed to buy that losing their capital of 30k people is supposed to retcon the entire NCR? absolutely stupid

Somehow the enclave returned

I think the big Problem is the complete lack of real NCR Controll, if as you said the Capital of the NCR was moved away from Shady Sands before the Nuke the entire NCR Government, Congress and Military Command would have survived, and the NCR would have lost 35k out ouf over 1 Million People this for me doenst justify that the only NCR Group we see are like some Militias without proper Uniform and Weaponry. The NCR should still have a strong presence in L.A. considering the Boneyard is an Important and Large Settlement as well as the BoS ist seemingly reemerging out of hiding and fighting for controll in California. This would realisticly fully reignite the NCR-BoS War and we would see entire NCR Battalions fight the BoS with Anti-Tank Weapons, NCR Rangers and Regular Infantry as seen in New Vegas not some random Militias were there one old Lady swinging the NCR Flag. I think the Problem is that Bethesdas Vision for Fallout is one of eternal stagnation after the Great War, were Civilization doenst begin again and instead there is an eternal lawless Wasteland which doenst work with the NCR in Place, and of course they want to milk the BoS with all kind of Franchise Products as they are the most recognizable Faction. But i agree that that the Fall of Shady Sands 2277 isnt the nuking and that the Nuke is a different Event. Overall i think realisticly even if Shady Sands would be destroyed there would still be a functioning NCR!

I dont agree with the idea that Bethesda hates Fallout New Vegas. But them destroying most of the things they didnt come up with (Shady Sands and New Vegas) Isnt helping.

Here is a counterargument though, why wasn't the nuke dated on the board? While it's most likely not an intentional retcon, it's at the very least a writing error or very badly presented piece of information.

One thing I don't get about the show is all those Vault Tec people being frozen in Vault 31 when Vault 111 was experimenting with people being frozen for long periods of time. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like an oversight.

The Shady Sands stuff is a little messy, but overall it was a good show.

I feel as though the NCR remnants we see at the end of the show are more of a splinter cell of a larger remaining faction. It seems like they consist of those perhaps unwilling to give up on Shady Sands, with their leader willing to go to some very morally questionable decisions (such as working with raiders) to achieve their somewhat un-realistic goals. It's quite possible there's a much bigger NCR presence regrouping somewhere like The Hub.

"Fallout was always badly written" "You're just stupid" "Stop thinking about it its just a videogame"

In history, we don't use the term "fall" to describe the start of something collapsing, the word for that is "decline". Rome fell in 476, it's decline began around 400. This particular retcon could be fixed if they had written "decline" instead.