Should We Obey Old Testament Law?

If you continue the text that he uses, "What goes into a man doesnt defile him" he says that un washed hands has no effect on a man. He was dealing with a pharisaic law of washing hands before eating. He was dealing with the Pharisees making their own laws, not changing the Law.

I like hearing these talks but with respect and love he tip toes around questions sometimes. As a believer I do Love how he tries to bring clarity and he does a good job. Certain things in regards to this conversation. Circumsion was not done away with it was redefined expanded on. Jesus clearly said I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill - Means to complete. Abolish means or is defined as formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution Colossians 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, Baptism. The Covenant was circumcision of the flesh before but now is of the Spirit through water. Not Abolished but New You can not confuse the 10 Commandments which it still stand today. With Moses 610 commands. Jesus himself said you hearts were harden so Moses allowed you to divorce.... Moses gave the people what they wanted but it was not God's ultimate will. Moses had authority at the time but Jesus defined what God's will is and he claimed Authority. He did not change His Father's Word. Why would he say vengeance is mine. Vengeance is not required if no Law is broken?  Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. By nullify the Comandments you are saying he has no reason that there are no abominations unto the lord. Idoltors will get into heaven. Murderers. Thieves. Ect. Even after they Repent accept Jesus and are Baptized. They can keep sinning because its of no effect. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight. Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished. Gods Law are in complete effect as we speak and for the last 2000 years incorporated into our laws. Murder still a crime a Commandment. Stealing still a crime A Commandment Embezzlement Fraud both in effect Ect. Also Against another Human If the world continues to be corrupt like it is now 2020 and do allow a Legal purge like killing Christians. Look at History the Holocaust government sanctioned. Would you kill? Because the Commandments are not in effect and the government sanction it? Think about this. More than likely you won't because you know its wrong but lukewarm "Christians with this Law is not in affect only Grace with no change" probably will kill. For defense or survival. Domt go off to Far the Popes support for Homosexual acceptance. Why are people resisting if the Law is not in effect? You can keep all 10 Comandments. You dont want to because you were taught not to. Unbias believer dont find it difficult. They were never taught to disregard them. In the past they needed to in order to be saved. Jesus died for us and paid the price . The perfect Lamb not just for Jews but the whole World. We are saved only through Grace and not religious practices that justify Crusades, kkk, Salvery, concentration camps, hewbrew Israelites ect. All do religious practices or other wise man made things and teachings. Following Commandments is ordained by God and Supported by Jesus. Even the disciples kept them. They taught against the 610 that the Jews try to enforce on to the Greeks. Law keeping will come easily and is not work when you Love God with all you heart and Your neighbor. Food laws are for your benefit they will not save you but will help you. You can not truly belive that pork and shellfish, reptiles ect will make you healthier. Why do you think people are attempting to eat cleaner? health benefits. That come with eating certain food and staying away from others. Where did covid come from? Where do certain diseases come from certain food. Swine flu. Stop and think. The 2 commands given by Jesus incorporated all the Commandments. "If you love me keep my Commandments" 1st and greatest is LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, SOUL MIND AND STRENGTH This One covers all 4 1. “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Me.” Idoltors, pride, ect 2.“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” People who curse and use his name 3. “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” This is the one people fail due to this teaching of no Law. Then you Have the Sunday vs Saturday battle. “Honor thy father and mother.” Don't curse or mistreat parents. Tell me is it really hard to complete this when you are a true believer? This is easy with the renwal of our minds and hearts. Then you have LOVE THY BROTHER AS THYSELF This covers these 6 5 “Thou shalt not kill.” This is not hard many do this everyday who are not even saved. 6“Thou shalt not commit adultery.” People struggle but belivers can absolutely avoid this 7“Thou shalt not steal.” You dont need to do steal. Most people don't and a true believer would not take what is not his 8“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” In court you can't do it so believers should find this easy 9“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife" Adultery lust with eyes like Jesus said 10“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.” Again same as above Think about it you do most of them without thinking. He never got rid of it. It doesn't negate what he did. We honor our Father by doing what he ask from the beginning. Just don't do it thinking you will be saved. If we fail we no longer need a lamb to be sacrificed we can pray to God though Jesus. Not a regular man or through religious practice to correct our ways so we don't fail again. If you break any one of these you break his 2 Comandments Therefore you dont love him because "If you love [HIM] me keep [HIS] my commandments" Just like food laws they are for you benefits. Even if you are Christians but steal kill adultery you will pay the consequences on earth if not God will Judge you. Unless you repent and stop it. If you continue you will be in danger and there will be gnashing of teeth Last thought. In the future what will distinguish true belivers from lukewarm one? Or which God you serve under a Muslim ruled world? Or under a Coexist movement because they believe in one God or others? Or the Jesus that the world portrays on a cross with gold chains who only brings blessings? Only one God. The God Of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, The Father of Jesus our Lord and Savior. His Comandments his Mark that will be placed on your right hand and mind and on our Heart through Jesus. Exodus 13:9 And it shall serve as a SIGN to you on your HAND, and as a reminder on your FORHEAD, that the LAW of the Lord may be in your MOUTH; for with a powerful hand the Lord brought you out Egypt. The Word of God. His word. Jesus The mark of the beast is known through the world but this is God's Mark. The evidence is overwhelming. Continue to fight the good fight. But many things were not addressed. You will receive no condemnation for not doing them from me, or eating, or living your life. I do pray you just increase daily in your walk and realize what man made Doctrines are and what God's Word says are two different things. Be Blessed in Jesus name Amen.

My goodness one could randomly listen to John Piper and it would be a fresh breath of Truth! Thanks Pastor John.

Thank you pastor John

Acts 15 New King James Version (NKJV) 15 And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question. 3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and they caused great joy to all the brethren. 4 And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. 5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.” 6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”

old covenant was fulfilled by coming of Messiah Jesus, Jesus was the end of the Law. By Jesus we are in a new covenant, with new promises: Holy Ghost and eternal life.

The laws were never a means of salvation and Paul and the entire Bible make that clear when it explains that Noah and Abraham were saved due to their faith long before the Laws were introduced. The laws were brought about to set Israel apart from the rest of the world. Now we have the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit set us apart from the world. If you live by the spirit you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18

We all have sinned and fell short of the glory to God. The problem is, that God is holy and doesn’t live with sin. So we all deserve to go to hell, but Jesus paid the price so you don’t have to. All you have to do is confess Jesus as your savior and repent (turn from all sin) and you’ll bs forgiven and on the way to heaven

May YHWH continue to Bless you in YESHUA's name, John†

Liberty in Christ Jesus... walking in the Spirit of God, unceasingly prayerful with conviction. Colossians 3:17 New International Version (NIV) 17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. 🙏🔥🥰🛐✝️

Jesus came not to abolish the LAW but to set us free from the curse of it, which is to think we have to or need to do certain things to be acceptable to God thereby earning Gods salvation by works. i think it comes down to the person. I follow the dietary commands not because its law but because I like to please, and respect God.

he was also talking about the traditions of the Pharisees and washing hands.

“Because every creature of God is good, and nothing to be thrust away, but having been received with thanksgiving;” — 1Tim 4:4 (LITV) “for through God's Word and supplication it is sanctified.” — 1Tim 4:5 (LITV)

This podcast is gold

On this subject with the Old Testament law, are we supposed to tithe? If not, then we are still supposed to give each according to their heart since God loves a cheerful giver, which means there is no set percentage as to how much to give to the Lord.

Wonderful explanation. Thanks

I don't know what to believe. It seems like it depends on who I am listening to determines whether we can eat pork. Paul makes it seem like we can eat pork in Romans 14,however, Paul also makes it seem like we shouldn't (sin is breaking the law, and Paul says we shouldn't sin just bc grace abounds). Secondly, everyone has different opinions on what Jesus said. Some say we can eat pork bc of that passage in mark, and others say we can't bc of matthew 5. Lastly, Isaiah 66 prophecies that those who eat unclean animals will be killed. And revelation 18: 2 makes it seem like eating unclean animals is still wrong. Not to mention acts 15 says we don't have to follow the law. Can someone plz help me understand all of this!!!

God bless you John Piper.

well even pastors who studied the bible their whole lives never really understood the law either, they think it's gone and done away. Their Jesus came down to teach them how to break His own laws. Like the SABBATH and Food Laws. Here's what tho, the sabbath is binding for sure. How can it not be? It's in the 10 commandments!! Jesus even taught us how to keep it exactly. He did it by showing the people how He keeps it. And to do so, He had to oppose the tradition of the religious system in His time. Because the rabbis of His time destroyed the sabbath and made it a burden for the people instead of it being blessing. Now the Food Laws. It has nothing to do with salvation. But here consider this! The Food Laws IS GOD'S WISDOM SHARED TO US so that we would know what is and isn't good for our bodies. Take that principle and SEE FOR YOURSELF that God really cares for your well being. Yes, even up to the food you eat. Why wouldn't He share that? There weren't any Scientists or FDAs in those days to tell you that those meats are bad. And get this; would you slaughter and eat a RAT? For food? RATS and PIGS are in the same category by the way; UNCLEAN ANIMALS; UNCLEAN MEATS. And so is dogs meat, cats meat, snakes, and the like (Leviticus 11) So that said, please rethink your beliefs about things even as simple as food. Because God cares about your wellbeing. Why do u reject Him even in these things. He only wants the best for you. ...and then John Piper is just now adding "pork" in the letter to the corinthians. Even tho it isn't even there. But anyhow, JP can't even explain "If you love me, keep my commandments" either. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome" because we love God, we keep His commandments in our hearts and do them.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18) It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished. "Not a a word of the law shall Change until the Heaven and Earth disappear" Earth is still here.we are still under the Old Law.