We Don't Talk About Dan Schneider

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Three years in the making, the iCarly series comes to a crescendo. Let's talk about our relationship to these shows and look straight into the sun's gaze - this is We Don't Talk About Dan Schneider.

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'Quiet on Set' by Investigation Discovery

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  • Just wanted to clarify a little mental typo - towards the end of the video I say "Brian Robbins" when I meant "Brian Peck." It's just one of those slips I didn't notice until after it was posted! I wish I had more time to review this for the one or two flubbs like that, but for now my sincere apologies to Brian Robbins for not catching this.
  • @patriciag6030
    Spending time explaining the storylines of Head of the Class for no apparent reason to then later demonstrate how he copied those storylines in all his own shows was genius.
  • @PokemonkaDub
    Spencer is not Dan Schneider. He's Dan Schneider's sona, his self-insert, he's what Dan THINKS what he's like, Spencer is what Dan WANTS to be seen as, WANTS to be.
  • @muticere
    Hearing Dan say that women can’t be funny is just so insane to me I could die. He’s a sitcom guy. Who is responsible for basically creating the template that most sitcoms still follow? A woman! Yes, I’m talking about Lucille Ball.
  • @ashofalltime
    the "28....... that DONT have a weird foot thing" was an AMAZING way to tell us that information
  • Brian Peck, as a registered sex offender of CSA, getting a job on ‘the suite life of Zack and Cody’ disgusts me in ways I can’t put into words.
  • "It might not be illegal, but its WRONG." You've perfectly summed up everything about the Dan Schneider effect in one sentence holy shit.
  • @hashtagmoniz
    I love how the entire first act of this video is a play-by-play of how Dan Schneider plagarized an entire show
  • @Jmonkeh
    There really is a devaluation in America of any forms of child abuse that isn't sexually touching kids. Mental and emotional abuse below that level can STILL be just as devastating to a child. But a lot of the time we treat them as "walk it off" situations...
  • Quinton watches the whole of iCarly, then a reboot is announced before the video is released. Quinton plans to talk about Jeanette McCurdy's life, then she writes a book before the video is released. Quinton plans to talk about Dan Schneider, then he reappears after being silent for years, before the video comes out. Quinton is either the main character or he is been having some seriously good RNG.
  • @Dappis
    Thank fuck you're normal about this and actually taking the issue seriously instead of treating it like internet drama.
  • “”Because such poor boundaries were in place, something must have happened.” But this is the wrong way to look at this. The correct logic is, “something could have happened, thus there should have been better boundaries.”” 👏👏👏👏
  • I love the genius of Quinton starting off with Head of the Class, which seems like an unusual tangent for a video that would eventually get to iCarly and Amanda show... and in his own description of Mr. Moore, says his stories begin with a "tangent that seems totally meaningless at first, before eventually revealing it to be an essential part of understanding a lesson or piece of the wider story.." the foreshadowing is amazing.
  • @weebsneku
    Brad Pitt being on a sitcom with Dan Shneider was not on my bingo card
  • @elfbreath
    Dan Schneider is a symptom, not the illness, and you might be the first person I've seen point that out.
  • @gunver79
    I'm from Germany and I don't know anything about Dan Schneider nor did I watch a minute of any of the shows you mentioned. I still watched the whole two hours of your video because in this day and age it is so soothing to listen to someone trying to approach something with as much common sense and appropriate proportionality as he can muster. Thank you for that.
  • Explaining the storylines of Head of the Class for no apparent reason, then later demonstrating how he copied those storylines in all his own shows was genius.
  • @mads_in_zero
    Honestly, the Quiet on the Set docco succeeded in shifting my opinion on child stars from "there's a pervasive culture of child abuse in the industry, stronger, stricter safe-guards are necessary" to "burn the entire industry down". Drake Bell's father was almost comically perfect - he got his kid into acting because his kid loved old movies and old movie stars, and he heard the warnings about how some people in the industry act and stayed extremely vigilant. He never let Drake out of his sight, and he correctly identified suspicious signs around Brian Peck. But it wasn't enough. The industry's culture of plausible deniability and protection of their own in-group led to Mr. Bell being shunned on-set, and eventually, infuriatingly, forced out of Drake's life. The fact that a parent went so above and beyond in what their role as a guardian of a child star should be, and it still wasn't enough? It's fucked, it's completely fucked.
  • @babyblue3717
    Recently I've seen people commenting on Amanda Bynes tiktoks like she's not there, or is even a person. She makes a tiktok talking about the wigs she likes, and the first comment is about how Dan Schneider impregnated her at 13 and made her get an abortion. Ok, let's entertain that for a second. So, a victim of CSA, rape and forced abortion decides, after years of being away from the media, create a tiktok so she can tell people about her interests and objectives, she's talking about how she's trying again for a manicure license, and then decides to check the comments just to be BOMBARDED by triggers, EXPLICIT descriptions of what the worst things she has ever been through were like, and people speculating and theorizing about her as if she's a character and not a real person, and even demanding her to speak on it, to prove their theories, to show the aborted fetus, or something else shocking. True Crime content has truly destroyed people's capacity to respect victims. Or to respect anyone at all. Thank you for this video Quinton.
  • Very important point that people seem not to be sure how to properly contextualize this sort of controversy. Many people focus on their own relationship with the characters in these shows (e.g., "my childhood is ruined") rather than being able to think of child actors as real people who exist and have lives outside of the feelings of the audience. I don't think people do this out of malice but it's an extremely important thing to recognize and correct in ourselves.