Nothing Has Changed Since 1999
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Published 2024-04-12
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All Comments (21)
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The best I can describe it, it's like a post-everything era. There aren't new trends in art, entertainment, society, etc, etc. It's all a meta deconstruction of everything from before. Chips release retro flavors. Bands release songs with specific decade influences. People pick "styles" of things from fashion to artwork and emulate it. There's no sincerity and everything is monetizable.
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The real change since 1999 is the overwhelming swallowing feeling of mistrust and fear.
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I can remember how much freedom I had in the 90's...this is horrible...I want to go back.
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We’re stuck in 2008. The financial meltdown literally stopped all our lives in its tracks and NOTHING has progressed whatsoever except our ages and overdrafts.
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The biggest difference to 10/20 years ago is that I no longer look at my phone as a magical device and more as a necessary evil.
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Imagine being told in the year 2000 that 2024 would be exactly the same but with all the fun removed.
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Getting older, I thought it was just me. All the 1900s decades were so different. In the 2000s…. Dashboard TVs in cars, computers in phones, and everybody hating everybody for everything is about the only difference over the last 25 years. My freshman yearbook from 78 versus senior yearbook 81 everybody look completely different. Four years versus four decades. You’re absolutely correct.!!!!
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The 2010s were the new game+ of the early 2000s, and the 2020s are the shameless remake of the early 2000s that no one asked for.
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The only difference between now and 1994 is today you can't talk about any show, at work, the day after you saw it, because you don’t know where anyone else is. Tim is two episodes ahead of you. Jane's watched it all. Carol's an episode behind, and Carl hasn’t started watching it yet. To talk about any show with anyone, you're either spoiling it for someone or it's getting spoiled for you.
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It’s like Fallout but instead of America being stuck in the 1950s, we’re actually stuck in the 2000s.
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I was a kid in the 70's. And 80's , this is hell compared to then.
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In College, I went to a talk by a scholar named Cass Sunstein. He said to us, in the year 2000, that the internet would affect democracy severely by making news very much an.individualized experience. It seems he was right.
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As a 47 year old, I can honestly say nothing has really changed much since 2010. I think the early to mid 2000s were distinctly different, and had a 90s holdover. The 1990s was definitely more notable, and 1991 seemed like a different world to say 1997. But 2008, doesn't really feel much different to say 2014.
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We're as far away from 2000, as 2000 was from 1976...
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I’ve been thinking about this a lot. You ever have a situation where you moved in with a good friend or took a long trip in close quarters with them, and found they drove you crazy? Once you had to live with them, there was no novelty left, and all their little quirks that were once charming now drive you crazy. It’s sort of like that with what social media has done. All novelty has been removed, and every aspect of our interactions have been laid bare. Everyone is sick of everyone else’s crap, and all decisions in government and business are now based off emotions and perceived perceptions to virtue signal instead of based off measurable facts. This salts the earth where originality, innovation, and community grow. Sadly I think things are going to get significantly worse in the future.
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Nothing has changed except inflation, unemployment, and homelessness
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Garth Marenghi's Darkplace exemplifies this phenomena. Made in 2004, parodying and partially set in 1986 (an 18 year difference), it felt like a whole different culture and world. We are now 20 years removed from 2004. There hasn't been anywhere near enough cultural or stylistic change for a current TV show to parody 2004 in a similarly successful way.
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I am realizing now that on September 11th 2001 something died or it was the beginning of the end of something we still haven't gotten back.
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I’ve thought about this a lot. Like people can say 1950s and you instantly have an imagine in your head. Same for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. But if I say 2000s or 2010s you don’t really have a lot of culturally related concepts in your head.
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The post-modernists anticipated this with 'multiplicity', which is exactly what we've got: the zeitgeist is multiplicity with each subgroup developing their own histories and narratives that get decentered from mainstream awareness fast, if they ever get there. We're quickly walking among greater fractionation and divergence of values and cultural references, which is a big difference from the past. This serves the purposes of the elite quite well as it provides the cover of darkness for their open actions, which takes them back to the past when there were genuine media blackouts and a complete dearth of information about elite actions; today, technical transparency is high, yet interest is minimised through the saturation of multiplicity resulting in many 'soft' layers of distraction and the conditioning of the self, which reinforces it.