How This New Battery is Changing the Game
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Published 2024-08-20
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04:40 - Should be "can be cycled daily for 15,000 cycles OR five years with zero degradation"
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:44 - InterBattery 2024 & The LFP Battery
03:04 - Why is Energy Storage Important?
03:55 - CATL TENER System
04:43 - Sponsor: Surfshark
05:54 - Back to the CATL TENER System
08:36 - Other New L
All Comments (21)
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I realize this sounds a bit sappy, but listening to your content always gives me hope that one day, humanity will find a way to balance our energy needs while maintaining environmental stewardship. These advances aren't game changers but necessary steps toward better technology. Another outstanding job. Thank you, Matt!
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Five years without degradation makes me think they should have named it the Fiver instead of the Tener.
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Point of clarification: Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited was created by BMW in 1998 and is completely unaffiliated with Rolls-Royce PLC, the owner of Rolls-Royce Power Systems and the MTU brand. Rolls-Royce hasn't made cars since its bankruptcy in 1971. BMW licences the brand and logo, but the cars share no lineage with the cars made prior to Rolls-Royce's bankruptcy.
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I will watch what CATL warranty is for those batteries, without such low degradation no one should be able to beat there's warranty.
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7:31 "With their powers combine"...Missed opportunity to add Captain Planet reference
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Cobalt doesn’t come from Africa in spite of the terrible working conditions. It is predominantly mined there BECAUSE of those conditions. Many countries including Canada have access to as much cobalt but safety restrictions and much higher wages make African sources much more lucrative. In fact, there is a mining town in Canada named Cobalt after this and other rare earths that used to be mined there. The resources still exist. It’s just cheaper to dig elsewhere.
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I celebrate every new (potential) track that opens in the sustainable energy space. More innovation; more progress
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Please tell me that I'm not the only one who reads CATL as "cattle".
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People are complaining that battery cell tech never makes it to market. It can take years to get from the lab to commercial penetration. 1996: John Goodenough and his team at the University of Texas at Austin discovered the LFP cathode material. Pattent was granted in 1999. The global LFP share increased to 34% in 2022. November 2023, LFP batteries captured 31% of the passenger EV battery market. The forecast is to reach 39% by 2024. In China, LFP batteries now make up over 50% of the EV battery market in GWh term. Interest in battery cells has increased somewhat and perhaps that will accelerate the required time.
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@3:44 the energy STORAGE market almost tripled. Not energy market.
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All these pieces of knowledge help guide the future successes. Oh, those marketing guys! Hydrogen and oxygen "self assemble" into H2O.
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They should focus on sodium ion for stationary storage.
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All these acronyms man I can't 😖
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It's interesting how fast things move. While solid state seems like the ultimate way to achieve potential airplanes, etc on electric, I feel like sodium ion is going to be the biggest growth area soon. Natron Energy is building a 2nd plant in the USA and while it may not work well for cars yet, the storage capacity and price seems like a win win for everyone. Though I have a few LFP cells for a home DIY battery, I am now hoping the salt battery cells start showing up to build longer lasting storage. That Natron's cells supposedly do 50,000 cycles and full charge in 12 minutes is damn impressive. Thats a lifetime battery right now for most who could buy one (though I dont think they are for homes yet). I could see however if they can increase the capacity without weight in the next couple years, we could see affordable 25K EVs with 500+ mile ranges.. maybe not 0 to 60 in 4 seconds or so.. but I would argue most people would want a 500 to 1000 mile range on a 12 min charge over a couple seconds faster to 60mph. Especially if it could also last 20,000 to 50,000 cycles making it a 100 year+ battery.
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Every week, another "new" battery is changing the game
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Man I wish I was the average US household being able to do 15kWh over two days.
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I think the biggest advancement would be an aftermarket solution to use a Tesla car. They are dirt cheap used for huge capacity. Just need the interface with your home electric grid.
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The long-term problem with LFPs for grid energy storage is that they are the most sensitive to the price of lithium per kilowatt hour. This means that their success will ultimately lead to their failure as they consume larger amounts of lithium per kilowatt hour in production if demand for them skyrockets globally, the price of lithium will also sky rocket making them a less and less economic investment as they succeed.
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I use LFP battery from Aliexpress in my scooter, it's large and heavy ah hell (26kg), but the range(200km) is so worth it. It's bit overkill for city riding, but saves my ass when i forget to charge it.