Conspiracy Theorist promises to concede, if I photograph the ISS ... So I did

Flat Earther: "Give me the evidence and I'll believe you." Normal Person: "Here's some evidence, here's how I collected it and where I collected it, this is the time of day it was collected." Flat Earther: "Please, that's obviously fake." Normal Person: "Well, you could recreate what I did and see if you get the same results." Flat Earther: "Nice try, shill! I won't fall for your lies!" There's no winning with these people.

While you are at it, would you mind setting up that camera again to capture the goalposts which will now move quicker than the ISS?

One of the most difficult things for human beings to do is admit that they were wrong. One of the most commendable things a human can do is to accept the truth.

My sons and I saw the ISS fly over our small town some years ago. We gotten up early in hopes of getting a glimpse. We not only saw it moving overhead with the sun rising in the east, we also saw the departure of the space shuttle separating from the ISS and moving off to the south east. We realize we were fortunate to see that precise moment. Wish I had my phone camera trained on the ski at that moment.

Having a flat eather say they consider a flat earth debunker to be trustworthy is a testament to how well put together and respectful these videos are.

"pokey"'s response is exactly what I would expect from a flat-earther: if the image isn't perfect, then it's "obviously not the ISS", but if it IS perfect, then it's "too perfect to be real". Any reasonable person would concede, but these are not reasonable people. But I sure appreciate your effort, Dave McKeegan.

It's easier to just launch and maintain the ISS than launch and maintain an ISS sized fake object that corresponds perfectly to an "ISS" tracking app.

Dave, all you need to do is ask a local Ham Radio operator. There's a repeater on the ISS which takes an up-link radio signal and sends it back down on another frequency. If the ISS wasn't there, a directional tracking antenna pointed out into space would not have a signal re-transmitted on the down-link. It would just go off out into space. Well done on the photography!

As a radio ham, I frequently use the ISS’ repeater, as do many other radio hams. The ISS only comes into range for a few minutes and is pretty much where it’s expected. During that time, I can receive and transmit (via the ISS) to people well outside normal line of sight range. Strange that I (and many others) should be able to do that if the ISS doesn’t exist.

I'd be amazed if pokie actually did change their mind.

the way your dog asks for high fives and scratches whenever you talk with your hands is what keeps me coming back 🥺🥺🥺

One day I got home after dark, turned around and caught a bright light moving quickly across the sky, not unlike satellites I've seen before, though far brighter. At first I had no idea what I was looking at, but then it twigged that it was in a southerly direction and looked like a satellite, so it might just be the ISS. I simply went inside, looked up the ISS tracker, and lo and behold, it'd just passed south of me like a 100km away. That was such a cool thing to see and then be able to look up straight away.

Great story! Nice work capturing the space station. Seems incredibly difficult.

i hate that we have reached a point where we all agreed that that we should do is doing the work for other people so we can convince them of the things they could easily find out by doing the work themselves.

The problem lies in the statement "conspiracy theorist promises to concede" Most people into conspiracy theories have a sort of built in denial that sorts out anything even vaguely threatening to their worldview. When faced with threatening facts, they turn to avoidant behavior and at times angry, unreasoned gainsaying. It is like a personality type that ends up getting drawn into that stuff. I think a degree of self-referential narcissism is a prerequisite since most conspiracy theorist exhibit very poor capacity for critical thinking of course that comes with the territory.

08/10/2023 Hello Mckeegan. My grandson and I saw the fly over ten or more years ago. We were camping in a big pasture with a big group of families and other campers in a wide open pasture, about 50 acres or more. We saw the Iss pass overhead in the dark. From out of sight to full shinny and until it darkened from the sun. Some said that it was an airplane but it was so high and bright that we decided it could not be airplane.We were all watching in amazement as it flew over. We talked for hours after. I have never seen this rare sight again but I did see the iss with my standard vision. No one had more than binoculars. Best clear night. The worst camp out with the same group was only 2 miles from a confirmed tornado. That was a strange night. We still mention that night occasionally. I did see it. Don't believe me just get on line for the flight path over the usa and wait for it to pass again on some clear night sky. It passes often overhead. Very cool. Don

There was a point in my life when I was younger when I went out of my way to prove the "pokies" of the world that they were wrong, but I just reached a point where it didn't seem to matter.

In the fall of 1957, when I was a little boy, my dad took us out in the yard one night (it was a country town with almost no light pollution) to see an amazing thing. He explained that the Russians had shot a tiny artificial moon into space that was circling the Earth. And we would see it soon. So we waited - and sure enough, in a little while a tiny bright point, like a star, suddenly appeared in the middle of the sky and slowly moved towards the horizon. He explained that it had been in Earth's shadow, then came out into the sunlight, and we were seeing the sun reflected off of it's surface. So that was before NASA, before CGI, before computers were made with transistors. And it was done by the Russians, not the evil American government which wants to fool us all about the nature of the cosmos for some reason. It was tiny - 58 cm in diameter, but against the black sky it was a bright point that anyone with normal vision could see as it orbited. Dad had already showed us how the moon changes every day, and how the shadow of the Earth on the moon is always a crescent, no matter what part of the sky it's in, because the Earth is a giant ball. And when we'd gone to the beach, we'd watched big ships move out to sea, slowly disappearing from the bottom up, and he'd explained the horizon to us. It was clear to me, at 6 years old, that we live on a giant sphere - and I wasn't just believing what my dad had told me, I'd seen the evidence.

A conspiracy theorist will NEVER admit they are wrong.

Never ceases to amaze me, people like Pokie walk amongst us 🤦‍♂