The IPC May Be Heading Into A Civil War | Honkai Star Rail Lore

Published 2024-05-18
Honkai Star Rail's 2.0 story related to Penacony is now presumably done and we have quite the after credits fallout from the catastrophic event from betrayals to even a god being almost ressurected. Because there were so many factions involved its difficult to determine what the after effects might be but based on information we currently have, there are indications that the IPC may be heading into a civil war, one that would shake the foundations of the IPC and is likely led by Diamond himself. On top of this there are signs that the stellaron hunters may be involved as well

Some part of this video comes from the actual lore while others may be speculation on my part as we currently do not know the full story. As such take it with a grain of salt as the point of this video is just a deeper dive into Honkai Star Rail lore.

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All Comments (21)
  • @ashaide
    Don't forget: The Galaxy Rangers returned en masse due to the events of Penacony. From a missing faction at the start of the game, thousands of the Hunt's most... Paladin-like Pathstriders are now back on the galactic stage. And I'm sure they saw what the Trailblazer did, dealing with a threat like Sunday.
  • Aside from doing trade with other planets, it seems that the IPC also likes to go to war just like they did in Gold and Gears event
  • IPC civil war will probably involve Architects. To me it always seemed like Architects were actual followers of Preservation meanwhile IPC is just a company that uses Qlipoth as a mascot. I believe Qlipoth also ignores IPC for the most part which supports my thought. Maybe Architects trying a coup with help of some factions (For example Strategic Investment Department).
  • @poxelus
    My hypothesis is that Aventurine is working with Jade to get his revenge on Marketing department or Oswaldo himself. Considering it was implied that Aventurine got in contact with Jade with his scheme on purpose and is really enthusiastic in working for the IPC for some reason, it would make sense. We know that sigonians were under protection from the IPC(I don't remember but maybe even Marketing department in particular) and they, well, didn't protect them, so sounds like a reasonable target for revenge.
  • @Mizuartsee
    I've heard it's implied that Oswaldo was responsible for the downfall of the Avgins and Boothill's planet.
  • @shotosuga3338
    I mean you were already right about the order influencing penacony so I'll let you cook again!
  • @kaealberich
    Blade and Kafka's scripts were in the Luofu and Sam's was in Penacony, so I would assume Silver Wolf has hers in Pier Point - at least based on the last part of her story quest in 1.1. if so, I'm very excited to have that kdrama chaebol business conflict arc in HSR, lmao. I genuinely want to have Pier Point as a "planet" we go to and the entire thing is just one big office πŸ˜‚ Meanwhile, I'm quite curious about Oswaldo as well since he's a former Nameless and I'm pretty sure Himeko mentioned somewhere that we had some more personal connections with the IPC, I assume that's him. So if they ever dive into that Oswaldo thing with Boothill, we'd probably be involved somehow.
  • @Delviieees
    hopefully they'll make Jade's arc (if she gets one) a bit longer than usual. i love evil corporate-type characters and was so disappointed when they just ended Aventurine's arc just because his banner is over. like bro just popped up at the end of the story?? after allat?? the way they had to slap Argenti into the plot just to save his twink ass offscreen (they didn't even voice him 😭)
  • @verycloverz
    Considering how the Stellaron Hunters were the ones to cause the Jepella Rebellion and also other crimes mentioned in that animation. I'd expect atleast the Stellaron Hunters to have some involvement in the IPC Rebellion.
  • @Kamishi845
    I think you overlook that is that a person can be an Emanator and be against the goals of the Aeon. Acheron proves this. Qlipoth's main goal is separation, not unity, and even if we assume that Diamond wants to change the direction of the IPC, it doesn't at any point suggest it would necessarily be in a positive direction. HSR's writing has so far been very adamant to not ruffle too many feathers with its lore, and tends to go back to the status quo rather than to really question the issues with capitalism. I write capitalism here, because 1) the IPC is the definition of uncontrolled capitalism and 2) because it better captures the power dynamic between people in power and those under them. The main arguments I'm going to use to prove why this is the case is the 1.4 story in Belabog and 1.5 on Herta's Space Station, where the writing had ample opportunity to question systems of power and how to change them, but both stories fell back on reinforcing the status quo. So while you may correct in your prediction that Diamond wants to change the IPC, I don't think this change is going to be something which structurally changes the IPC to the point it will no longer endorse capitalism. Case in point is how 2.2 failed to take the story to its fullest conclusion by shirking the context how wealth distributes power in society. The solution it offers is still very much in line with the status quo, because at no point does it address actual wealth inequality over instead suggesting that people have the right to choose their own paths in life which is true, but it did not address the suffering wealth inequality causes and why escapism may seem desirable in the first place. All it said was that suffering is a part of life and that every person has their own right to decide how to deal with it, despite heavily implying that human suffering is caused by unfairness due to unequal wealth distribution i.e. if people had better access to things such as healthcare or reasonable income, they wouldn't have to go to Penacony to chase their dreams. Consider for example in Sunday's story how the father sold off his children as slaves to afford going to Penacony to work with the intent to buy his children back at a later point in time, and at no point does the story suggest that if society had provided the father with proper income and support in the first place, he would never have had to sell his children. Instead the solution is that the father should simply just accept his suffering from being poor because that's just how life works. To add on this, I'm especially disappointed with 1.4 where Belabog is still indebted to the IPC but they aren't forced to sign a contract to be slaves in order to pay off the debt. It's to be noted here that Diamond has no moral issues with this, because as the head of the Strategic Investment Department, his main purpose is to ensure that those working under him i.e. the ten Stonehearts, do what they're supposed to. He demoted Topaz because she was emotionally swayed to go against the goal of her mission, and Topaz herself is apparently so deeply enmeshed with the IPC that she also can't see the moral implications of her behavior unless it stares her right in the face. How many planets prior to Belabog was she guilty of enslaving? We have no idea. If Diamond was really against the moral pitfalls of capitalism, why would he be the head of the one department that really illustrates the evils of it? The only person we can loosely let off the hook is Aventurine, since despite his position the IPC, is also enslaved, though we don't quite know exactly how it works in practice. Aventurine also has an interesting relationship with money that isn't reflected within the rest of the IPC cast we've seen so far i.e. he's very generous and doesn't seem to actually care about being rich himself, or at least he doesn't think it gives him any particular status over others despite being extremely wealthy. The one criticism of Aventurine I have in this context is that he doesn't seem to connect the wider implications of how wealth distribution affects people beyond an individual or group level i.e. there's nothing which could stop him from spending his money that address actual structural injustice rather than giving it out money to individuals who would obviously benefit from it, but does nothing to address the systems that cause this inequality. So while he seems to not necessarily share the overall capitalist values of the IPC, he's still complicit in maintaining the system of power capitalism has over society, but he's more excused because compared to Topaz who willingly joined the IPC because she thinks the IPC is great, he had no choice in the matter. We also don't know what relationship he has with Diamond, and we know that while he's friendly with Topaz and Jade, he's not close with either of them, and he's overall disliked within the IPC, likely because ethically, he isn't fully aligned with capitalist values like the rest of the IPC cast is. By that I mean that he doesn't seem to value wealth for its own sake and the power wealth provides him over others.
  • @jakeail1995
    While i agree with IPC heading for somewhat civil war but i don't agree with a few point in the video: - Diamond trying to lead IPC back to it original state like what they were before swarm disaster: i don't think this what he trying to do, imo he trying to remove corruption from IPC, last time they have this level of corruption they cause a huge scale galactic war so Diamond trying to avoid a war not starting another one - Recording Aven got gonna be use to made the family support Diamond: No i don't think so, i think the biggest use for this record is as negotiation chip against the family on penacony coz i think the real objective of Stoneheart member was to retrieve the stellaron or atleast seal it again. Aven was sent in first as a recon to collect the needed evidences to pressure the family which was unsuccessful many time before and if that fail then they will do a forceful extraction which they have already lay the needed work before like sending in more IPC backup from Topaz + smuggle 2 cornerstone into Family ground.
  • Okay this is my view in what will happen in the IPC conflict and the 2.3 storyline but before here is some facts: -- Diamond and Oswaldo both want to be board members but there's only 7 spots --Taravan one of the seven board members is supporting Diamond --Boothill is going against Oswaldo --The IPC wants to take control of Penacony --There are various "big shots" in Penacony --The Family was "brainwashing" it's guest and it "stole" Jade's Cornerstone --Everything The Family did and all of Sunday and the Oak Family plans to trap people in Ena's Dream was recorded and sent to Adventurine Now that we have all the facts what I think will happen Jade and Topaz will expose the family for what they did and try to take control of Penacony since it was originally a planet belonging to the IPC and if they succed Diamond will have an amazing accomplishment since Penacony can help ease many of the IPC deals and with the support of Taravan Diamond can be promoted to P47 and become a board member. But what about Boothill well if Aventurine wants we can direct Boothill to go against Oswaldo and end his life and create one less problem for Diamond and if that happens Aventurine with the promotion to P46 might get The Marketing Development Department from Oswaldo but that's only speculative since we don't know Adventurine opinion on Diamond and if we wants to help them.
  • @ginkage5863
    Thanks fir the breakdown and details πŸ‘
  • @RomnilWater
    Having an IPC civil war, in the form of a 1980's hostile takeover, seems likely at this point. It's also interesting that Boothill is looking for Oswald. Boothill certainly is a loose cannon but he also seems to be always wanting to help those in need and punishing who he views as evil (even though his methods are certainly questionable). So the question is: is he looking to help Oswald or Punish him? I don't think we have enough information to really know right now and knowing that would help us understand the situation of the possible Civil War. Also from a Meta level I don't know how the IPC and Point Pier will fit into the story. We already got a glance from Qlipoth so if we are going to Point Pier it's unlikely we're siding with the Preservation at this moment. Unless this IPC story is a long term background plot there would have to be more going on then just the Preservation to make it make sense mechanically in game.
  • @artraer
    Thank you for the video! With every lore and theory video I love HSR even more ❀ such a big universe with so much interesting characters and plotlines πŸ˜πŸŒŒπŸ’œ
  • What if we have a similar situation in the IPC that Penacony just had, there is another Aeon syphoning the will and support of a portion of the IPC. The question is, what Aeon would interfere with Qlipoth, perhaps we are going to start touching on Voracity lurking in the dark ready to consume what Qlipoth is working so hard to Preserve.
  • Is the current IPC leaning toward the path of Voracity? That is why Diamond and Taravan are taking action, actively running damage control before everything goes down to chaos?
  • @markmarkmark08
    Maybe Oswaldo is the "good guy". Perhaps Diamond and his associates are not really into serving Qlipoth (just like Sunday and Gopher Wood of the Oak Family, who wants Order instead of Harmony). Maybe they are planning to get rid of the legit Qlipoth "supporters" and run the IPC for their personal goals (while occasionally sending building materials to Qlipoth just to hide their true nature). This is just a "maybe". Great theory from you, just like the last time.
  • @harmonialarts
    Nah, the Credit would win The IPC is from its very foundation, is doomed to be a greedy corporate entity. To be able to get those 'materials' for the Qlipoth even though they don't even care for said materials, they NEED to be as big and influential as they are and to be that requires a lot of colonization essentially which is never a good thing. And even if they did reforms to be less shit, their still gonna be shit because the most effective employees are usually the most unforgiving and driven people who get the job done at any cost morality be damned as long as they get those materials and credit scores.