Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin | Lex Fridman Podcast #339

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Published 2022-11-18
Bjørn Lomborg is author of "False Alarm". Andrew Revkin is a climate journalist (21 years at NY Times). Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Andrew's Twitter: twitter.com/Revkin
Andrew's Substack: revkin.substack.com/
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Bjørn's Twitter: twitter.com/BjornLomborg
Bjørn's Website: lomborg.com/
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The Burning Season: amzn.to/3Dmr5Hq
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How to Spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place: amzn.to/3gwoIJ7

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:51 - Politics of climate change
18:53 - Greta Thunberg
25:23 - Electric cars
32:45 - Economy
40:22 - Journalism
54:23 - Human emissions
1:12:11 - Worst-case climate change scenario
1:32:32 - Hurricanes
1:51:20 - Climate change vs Global warming
1:55:27 - Climate alarmism
2:10:17 - Economic models
2:41:44 - Climate change policies
2:57:46 - Nuclear energy
3:04:22 - Alex Epstein
3:14:52 - Public opinion on climate change
3:36:49 - US presidents
3:47:27 - Advice for young people
4:01:02 - Meaning of life

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All Comments (21)
  • @lexfridman
    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Linode: linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Onnit: lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off 1:51 - Politics of climate change 18:53 - Greta Thunberg 25:23 - Electric cars 32:45 - Economy 40:22 - Journalism 54:23 - Human emissions 1:12:11 - Worst-case climate change scenario 1:32:32 - Hurricanes 1:51:20 - Climate change vs Global warming 1:55:27 - Climate alarmism 2:10:17 - Economic models 2:41:44 - Climate change policies 2:57:46 - Nuclear energy 3:04:22 - Alex Epstein 3:14:52 - Public opinion on climate change 3:36:49 - US presidents 3:47:27 - Advice for young people 4:01:02 - Meaning of life
  • @ajm01010
    In an era of short attention spans, it's a relief to see someone creating in-depth, long-form content with real substance. Fantastic work. Thank you
  • "Farmers are the heroes of humanity" - finally. And I'm not a farmer nor do I know any farmers but man do I think they need to be credited more by state and citizens.
  • @hyperTorless
    This is not a debate. There is not a single contradiction happening between these guys. Revkin seems kind of unable to argue. They are just talking to Lex but not to each other.
  • @cosmos0909
    I love that there is no intro music in Lex podcast. It feels so real and natural, like it is happening right now
  • @eitans7114
    The amount of amazing content Lex has been putting out recently is staggering
  • @gus72707
    What I love about this channel is that people interviewed, get to talk to the point that they hear themselves, and almost question what they are saying because we are actually hearing them out.
  • @englishdogs
    Love that this is billed as a 'debate', but it's really just a great, perfectly civil, discussion. I felt good hearing them after thinking it was going to be contentious.
  • @potterj09
    Lex loving your studio. My office/hangout room is similar with a lot of a low-sheen black surfaces contrasted with dark oak tables a shelving :)
  • I hate that we slowly converted environmental problems into the clima problem. If we solve our crimes on rivers and forests and landfills we would solve alot. I grew up in east germany and after 30 years and a lot of effort and well spent money we are getting healthy rivers back. Lets work on stuff like that way more...
  • Bjorn is such a stone when he listens. By that you can tell he isn't waiting to say his next "premeditated line"
  • @Pepper-rn4hh
    Gosh, I remember when they were shouting from the rooftops that "global cooling" was going to end the planet. That was the 1970's
  • Lex has expanded my horizons more in the last 6 months that the previous 20 years, I’ve rediscovered critical thinking, challenged my assumptions and perceptions of the world around me and definitely triggered my personal Unherding. Thank you for the enlightenment
  • Was it supposed to be a debate between Lex and the guests or the guests against each other? It seemed like the two guests came from a very similar position. Also, why whenever I see climate skeptics on tv, they are not scientists first and foremost. Here one is trained in journalism and the other is trained in political science.
  • Dear Lex, thank you for this episode. I would be really eager to see a follow up. What I would consider to be really valuable, would be a discussion with climate scientists, ideally from people who worked on the IPCC reports. May be someone like Saleemul Huq, who might challenge some of the views lined out by Bjørn Lomborg.
  • This was great. Huge gratitute for your work as always, Lex, and I really appreciate the insights of these two genial "debate" guests. And, I feel like the elephant in the room is biodiversity loss (including old-growth forest and other carbon capturing natural phenomena) and the spike in the species extinction rate, the human contributions to these and their effect on the whole system, including climate. These issues weren't discussed at all in this conversaton, which may be because it would take another 4hours, and maybe it isn't so much in the wheel-house of Bjorn and Andrew, however, personally its a gap in my knowledge and I'd love for you to interview someone who could speak in an informed way about the relationship of these issues to climate change and the broader ecological and economic impacts, even including GM crops etc, the benefits and drawbacks... If anyone wants to suggest an apropriate canditate I'd be interested to check out their work. Thanks again 🙏🙏🙏
  • Here in Australia, we have had some flooding. It's not unusual in an historical perspective, however the impact on people was huge. In Lismore and many other places in NSW, the impact was amplified by the number of people who had built their houses on a flood plain since the last major flood. It hasn't stopped the media constantly claiming that the floods were caused by climate change, which MAY or may not be partially true, but utterly irrelevant compared to the fact that people should not be building inappropriate houses on flood plains.
  • 99.9999% of comments : wow this content is so important 0.0001% of comments: actually discusses the content
  • This is a very serious and well conducted interview. I feel way more people should hear it.