"Me & My Husband" - Warriors PMV
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Published 2021-03-06
If you chose to make fanart of this map (that sounds very conceited lol I've had like 1 person make art, this is just in case!) please remove the feather or move it to her pelt or tail instead :)
"So feathers are incredibly sacred to Indigenous cultures. They are an honor to receive, and treasured greatly. They aren’t small, insignificant parts of our culture... The way that artists tend to use the feathers in their design is very reminiscent of these stereotypical caricatures of Indigenous people. We don’t necessarily mind you adding a feather for some reason to your design, but placing it in your character’s hair or behind the ear in a way that is similar to these old caricatures is a no-go."
For more information on this issue check out this great doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1Ll3Gfo7d5kD2GLT1F1t4fU…
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This is pretty old but it was super fun cleaning it up a bit and finishing it! It’s not great quality and I really gave up towards the end but I didn’t intend for it to be incredible anyway lol
NOTE: incase it was unclear, this animatic is in NO WAY trying to romanticize or approve of Thistleclaw and Spotted’s ‘relationship’. The song is about suburban, old-fashioned housewives and feelings of worth being tied to relationships and the cheery tone is supposed to be ironic.
All Comments (21)
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Hi! I have an OPEN Warriors MAP right now if anyone is interested....👀✨❗❗❗ https://youtu.be/FaQsrlr-KZI
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“Warriors are for kids!” Spotted leaf: “haha, no. “
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The dogs being compared to Thistleclaw, Firepaw being compared to younger Spottedleaf as she almost continues the cycle, the leaf being shaken away because she feels guilty, the feather marking her as Thistle keeps bringing more and more, the character designs, the upbeat song choice, everything about this is perfect!! Spottedleaf has never been my favorite but this makes me sad for her :(
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I love how you included the cycle of abuse but I feel like it’s worth noting that Spottedleaf didn’t pursue him despite him having obvious feelings for her. Like, he clearly had a crush on her and she could’ve continued the cycle but... she didn’t. She refused to continue what Thistleclaw had done and I don’t think she’s given enough credit for that.
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yeah,this kinda does show the dangers of that kinda stuff,she thought it was normal and went after a young boy,thankfully in both cases it..didnt go that far,but also,whenever it does happen,its already too far,it would have been interesting if the Erins took a appropriate approach to this situation,but nah,they had to victim blame,Spottedleafs heart could have been a good book to warn kids about the dangers of grooming,i fee like it normalized some gross shit though
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Even though I hate how they used Thistleclaw in Spottedleaf's Heart, and the SpottedXFire looks like a bad ship for me, this is probably one of my favourite Spottedleaf's PMV. Not only it is very pretty drawn, it also shows her as a victim of a cruel treatment. She doesn't realizes that she is replicating her abuser's manipulation, in fact, I don't even believe that she actually spoke with anyone about that period of her life. My god, now I am very sad. But the PMV is still amazing! Gonna add it to my playlist. Keep working hard!
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i just adore how you show that spottedleaf is timid and fearful of her crush on fireheart, not just her going like 'ooo i love fireheart c'mere give me kiss fireheart', she is slightly aware of what she's doing, she's doing the same thing that thistleclaw did to her.
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Oh this. This is beautiful. Idk where to start, the ironically cheery music, the excellent art, or the wonderful depiction of the cycle Spottedleaf is unintentionally continuing. I esp loved the scene at around 1:29 where it kinda switches between Spottedleaf with Firepaw and Spottedpaw with Thistleclaw. Rly unsettling and the "I am loved" kinda shows how Spottedleaf was never shown what healthy love should be for her. Also the use of dogs to show the thinly veiled predatory nature of Thistle is 👌 so on point. Dogs are big, scary, and do noticeable harm (see- brightheart) but subtle manipulation? Much harder to pinpoint, but dangerous all the same and some part of Spottedpaw picks up on that. I could go on for ages about this dude, it's so good !
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I absolutely adore the symbolism and how you tied together Spottedleaf's relationship with Thistleclaw and Firepaw. It's so tragic that she ends up repeating the unhealthy behaviors and power dynamics she had learned without realizing it, and you conveyed that so well. I also noticed that she wears a red feather that sticks with her after Thistle gives it to her? I'm assuming that symbolizes how Thistle permanently changed her and ruined her perception on love
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As someone who has been almost murdered and had their innocence taken away at the age of 6 by a pedophile, this hit home for me. I personally despise Spottedleaf’s Heart. It makes what I went through seem _okay_. And it’s not. It has changed and shattered me forever, and that book absolutely disgusts me in one way. But it also shows how Spottedleaf viewed it- as something nice, and good, till those small feelings of uncomfortableness spiraled, and she didn’t realize what was wrong till far too late, like me. You managed to make me cry over this. It’s masterfully drawn and constructed- so thank you for making this, it really hit home where it needed to.
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I hated that when people said spottedleafs heart wasn't canon because of how bad it made thistle look when it seemed pretty accurate to me. It also made a lot of sense from a story point when we know in the future that spotted basically continued the behavior she got from thistle with firepaw. Kinda sucks that people hate the book purely because they liked thistle and don't think he's evil when he already was. The fact that they're willing to completely refuse it because of thistle when it's about spottedleafs story of her abuse of thistleclaw. The book is canon and shows great representation of what it's like to be groomed. It reminded me of my own experience with grooming so I really related to spotted throughout the book. Wish more people were less willing to just ignore canon to do the character they personally like doesn't look bad in their brain.
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As someone who is about 50 to 60% Native American, the feather behind the ear is not offensive. It's just a cat wearing a feather. It's not cultural appropriation.
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Your anatomy is amazing. It actually looks like she’s a kitten/app/warrior age throughout, which I highly appreciate <3
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Mitski
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Wow I had to read up on this after watching. Spottedleaf and Firepaw's feelings towards each other always bugged me because of how little there was to go off of, but I never considered the pedophila aspect of it. In both cases of Spottedleaf's story, the relationships were dismissed for the wrong reasons. One because she's a medicine cat, and the other because he turns out to be evil. But no issue with the age? The Erins really should have seen how horrible this was. Especially when writing to a young audience. It's scary how the darkest parts of fantasy are the parts that are real. This pmv however was phenomenal at showing exactly how it should have been in the books. How her own grooming impacted her and led her in the footsteps of the one who took advantage of her. Wonderfully shown here!
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Your art is amazing and the little symbols you put through the pmv are so touching! Like the leaf on her ear, and she pushing it away because Thistle disaproves it. Or the way she changes the feather to a leaf when she decides to get away from him and be a medcat. Personally, I don't like Spottedleaf, the way that she acts with Firepaw/heart/star always crept me out. After Spottedleaf's heart, I kinda understood why it didn't look okay. You portrayed her being like Thistle so well! It's pretty sad the way she was a victim, and then repeated what she learned.
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I really love the thought that went into this pmv and the analysis of the psychological effect Thistleclaw had on Spottedleaf. Spottedleaf’s Heart as a book def wasn’t handled well, and should have shown the children the warning signs of grooming and it’s dangers better, but I do believe the book does help you understand Spottedleaf’s mind a bit better than in the main series. This pmv shows the cycle of grooming and how Spottedleaf has become normalized to something that psychologically messed her up so much. Also this pmv also made me realize how Thistleclaw’s grooming could have also made her feel like she had to be with a mate to be worthwhile, which is very tragic and awful but it adds way more depth into her character and her struggles. This song is about a woman who was told to be an object for a man her whole life and she feels she has to be dependent to be worthy, and I feel like this reflects upon Spottedleaf and her trauma very well! It also explains why she literally gave up her soul to save Firestar from death when he never loved her the same as he loved Sandstorm. This art is phenomenal, the symbolism is SO AMAZING (specially the feathers and the leaf?? So good), and the thought put into this is evident! Great job!! This story is very tragic and is def a warning call to watchers, but you told it stunningly!
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I know I’m kinda late, but I really like this! It shows how her relationship with Thistleclaw really messed her up and made her not see any problems with her liking Firestar. Nice!
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When the shots between Firestar and Spottedleaf flashed back and forth between images of her and Thistleclaw as they were looking at each other, I legit got goosebumps. Probably one of my favorite pmvs of the year so far. ;;
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oh this is LOVELY....it really demonstrates how she gets stuck in a cycle thats normalized for her and how she unintentionally does the same thing that hurt her to fire. i love your style & designs as well
