What is SMPTE ST 2110 IP Video? Let's talk about it.

Published 2024-04-22
ST 2110 seems to be unknown in many video circles. But we're seeing new products announced that use it often. Let's take a few minutes and talk about what it is, how it might be used, and how it's different than other technologies like SDI, HDMI, and NDI. And follow that up with some discussion of the new products announced by Blackmagic Design a short time ago.

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All Comments (21)
  • @Andreas-ov2fv
    I'm small fry - nowhere near ST 2110 budgets - but I am relieved to hear so many of my own thoughts reflected from Doug. As a low-end production team with just a few members, 2110 seems like a "revisit in 2030" proposition. And honestly, I would be very dubious of investing in network or network-enabled equipment from BMD. They have a reputation for making versatile, budget-friendly equipment - but it's a given that QA isn't great, reliability isn't great, support isn't great and they'd rather put out a "new and improved" product instead of upgrading their existing ones. (Just look at Doug's Web Presenter / YouTube streaming woes)
  • @Jesse_Hicks
    Thanks Doug, great video. Loved the honest comments and your feedback on 2110.
  • @arxaaron
    Great, relevance prioritized info as usual! It's great to see open, professional standards for IP network based A/V distribution! Since I only have interest in working with smaller scale production environments I had no idea that open standards like ST2110 were being implemented by the SMPTE organization, but after this video I feel I have a pretty solid general understanding of what they are and how they work.
  • @BAdams138
    Doug, Thank you for the explanation of SMPTE ST2110. I saw the video of NAB , but it was over my head, somewhat. You were very thorough; I will continue to read and try to stay abreast of it. Take care!
  • @RECProductionsGR
    Your videos are always informative and usefull. Thank you for your efforts!❤
  • @Iamdebug
    This sounds like slightly redefined usage of the multicast ranges, the switches support pruning unless required instead of blast to determine required and then trim. Multicast itself has been in use for over a decade so it's a reliable system, still learning about precision time and this standards methods of integration on the network. This video is a nice step in that direction.
  • @alexudell
    As you note, uncompressed and compressed workflows have their benefits in overall topology cost and where they are used in the chain. A couple of notes on NDI. NDI discovery server (similar conceptually to NMOS) allows NDI to be registered and discovered across subnets, and also allows for practical uses of NDI for much larger device pools by speeding up the discovery versus the default automatic discovery implementation of NDI. Also the combination of various flavors of compression and NDI Bridge toolset allows the interconnect of NDI networks across the public internet. Unlike other protocols in that space, it does simplify one to many transmission when doing so. Thanks again for this video. Learned a lot!
  • @mikkowilson2
    Until BMD releases a 2110 switcher, their ecosystem is going to remain hybrid with all of its shortcomings. I would be surprised if we don't see a 2110 switcher out by next year, once they've got a little more experience with the ancillary stuff first. I think they'll sell a bunch of their little converters to pro markets for things like confidence monitors or non-critical interface conversion for things where a little latency isn't an issue. Random POV cameras, etc... BiDi over Cat6 worth PoE is very handy. I do think they'll sell a lot of the Audio monitors. That's right in the sweet spot for non-critical monitoring positions where a failure isn't a showstopper, and buying a dozen of them for a facility starts to have savings on any budget that can be then better spent elsewhere. Beyond that, the currently available 2110 switchers are in a very different class to most BMD gear. Which is a major differentiator in markets. BUT. "BMD 2110" is a talking point that shouldn't be ignored either.
  • @Drinkieee
    I've been waiting for this video for a long time! YAY Deej
  • @DylanSpeiser
    Thanks for explaining all this. It’s confusing after hearing a lot of hype about NDI, but I think I get it now.
  • @SalComuna
    It is clear that SMPTE is scoping this standard as a solution to high level productions. It solves the needs of big professionals and then it will slowly cascade to smaller productions and be democratized. I mean look at those big productions trucks with hundreds of SDI and big routers, this needs to evolve. Same as DANTE that is now the standard in big music events. SMPTE 2110 will take over definitely to traditional SDI wiring.
  • @user-yf5ij3rt3w
    Great video and a good intro to 2110, thank you! (One minor point, "Vizrt" is usually pronounced Viz-r-t - i.e. the r and t are just pronounced as separate letters, so it sounds like: viz are tee)
  • @VegasDominic
    Would love to learn more on how Ndi vs 2110 compares to each other. 😀👌 2110 or NDI video signals captured from within Resolume and Vmix for live stage presentations on huge led video walls on stage. 😀👌 Wow didn’t know there was 2110-10, 2110-20, 2110-30 and even 2110-21 😮 thank you for making these types of videos, more power to DJP 🎉😊
  • @Graham_Rule
    That all sounds very interesting. Once word I don't think I heard was "security" which in most IP environments is crucial. Of course, once someone has physical access to your cables all bets are off anyway.
  • Fantastic video Doug! Fascinating stuff. Mikrotik makes a 24 sfp+ port 4 40gb switch that should be ptp aware for about $600, and those will start hitting the secondary market eventually. Beyond that, does the industry take the Dante approach and slap an FPGA to network card to make the whole system work at lowest possible latency? If we're using ethernet for AI applications surely it can be made fast enough for video transmission. It will be interesting to see. Low latency is paramount for me even above resolution so I'm sticking with coax and fiber SDI for the time being as well.
  • @Likeaudio
    All that aes67 goodness as well. Yummy stuff
  • @BerlinerDom
    Great video, thanks for that. I'm always looking for alternative transmission methods in our old building with its thick walls. We only have 100Mbit from the switch in some areas and rarely more than 1Gbit between switches. That's why this is unfortunately not an option for us.